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7th Edition Dark Elves 2.9 Beta!
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b0ksah said:I'll get the book today ... so I'll see if I can fix the issues you descripe. I can also post after Im done how I did it .. if you are interested?
That would be great!!
I'll go back and look at your work as well. Once I see how you did it that will teach me for the future.
Thank you!
Also, does the new Errata let the Battle Standard Bearers use Extra hand weapons, shield and great weapons now? If so, that needs added as well.
If you get the hard coding done then I'll go back and make the item descriptions more concise and verbose.
Again, I greatly appreciate the coding help!
If you get the hard coding done then I'll go back and make the item descriptions more concise and verbose.
Again, I greatly appreciate the coding help!
Sorry .. haven't had the time to look on the DE files as yet .. have been working on the Daemonic one and the Vampire one
But some hits ... look at my new daemonic files ... under furies you should find a way to do the "dont counts toward core"
And in the Vampire you'll find more ... When in doubt just ask youself ... are there an army that already have this rule? if yes .. then you proberly find the code for the rule in their *.dat file ... that's how I learned
But some hits ... look at my new daemonic files ... under furies you should find a way to do the "dont counts toward core"
And in the Vampire you'll find more ... When in doubt just ask youself ... are there an army that already have this rule? if yes .. then you proberly find the code for the rule in their *.dat file ... that's how I learned
b0ksah said:Sorry .. haven't had the time to look on the DE files as yet .. have been working on the Daemonic one and the Vampire one
But some hits ... look at my new daemonic files ... under furies you should find a way to do the "dont counts toward core"
And in the Vampire you'll find more ... When in doubt just ask youself ... are there an army that already have this rule? if yes .. then you proberly find the code for the rule in their *.dat file ... that's how I learned
That's what I've been doing and about to do now that you gave me some good places to look.
Added a new upload with the Warhammer.def file, so you can load it correctly.
Thank you!!
This is based off of 1.5. With any luck, you'll have already caught most of this by the time I finish posting it, but who knows...
Dreadlord -
Cold One Mount - 30 points
Cold One Chariot - 90 points
Manticore - should not take a Hero slot when used as a mount for Lord characters (i.e. Dreadlord, Supreme Sorceress, and Hellebron)
Supreme Sorceress
Cold One Mount - 30 points
Manticore - See Dreadlord Entry
The Sect Enmity Rule no longer exists.
Dark Elf Sorceresses can use as many power dice to cast a spell as they wish.
Death Hag
Extra Hand Weapon - The Death Hag comes with two hand weapons, and does not need to pay extra for the second weapon (and in fact must take the second weapon)
Witches Brew - This is not being counted against the limit of Temple of Khaine items
Master
Missing the option to take a Beastmaster's Scourge
Cold One - Should be 20 points
Cold One Chariot - Should be 90 points
Sorceress
Cold One - Should be 20 points
The Sect Enmity Rule no longer exists.
Dark Elf Sorceresses can use as many power dice to cast a spell as they wish.
Beastmaster
This is now the name of the two models that accompany the War Hydra, and is no longer available as a seperate model. The entry in the Common section of the army list should be removed.
Corsairs
Reaver (Champion) - There's some discussion on this on Druchii.net, but I believe the Reaver should be able to take two Repeating Hand Bows in addition to his two melee weapons according to the rules as written. The list currently doesn't allow that.
Repeater Crossbowmen
Guardsman (Champion) - Currently shows a cost of 5 (which is what he should cost), but selecting him actually costs you 9 points.
Harpies
Should have a maximum unit size of 10.
Should have M5, BS0, and I5.
Black Guard
The entry for Black Guard in the list shows a minimum size of 10 models instead of 5 (adding a unit will correctly add 5 however).
Black Guard should have a maximum unit size of 20 models.
You can now add as many Black Guard units to your army as you wish. The 1.5 list only allows you to add 1.
Tower Master currently costs 13 points, and should cost 14.
Magic Banner - Should only be able to select a magic banner of up to 50 points.
Kouran - Should have the Armor of Grief
Executioners
The entry for Executioners in the list shows a minimum size of 10 models instead of 5 (adding a unit will correctly add 5 however).
Tullaris - Gets the "Sacred Slaughterer" rule; should have I5 and not I6
Shades
Bloodshade - The cost of weapon upgrades to the unit of Shades currently does not take into account a Bloodshade (if you have one). The Bloodshade can take a different weapon upgrade from the one the unit took (which the list should not allow), and the upgrade is free (which it should not be).
Witch Elves
Hag - Should be WS4
Unit can currently take a magic standard of up to 50 points; should be limited to 25
War Hydra
The former "Apprentices" are now "Beastmasters"
The Beastmasters are armed with a Beastmaster's Scourge (Hand Weapon, Armor Piercing) and a Hand Weapon
Hydra should have WS4 and W5
The reference to p.13 of the Dark Elf book is outdated. Instead the reference should be to p. 67 of the Basic Rule Book.
For the Beastmasters, you may want to include a reference to the Beastmaster rule on p. 58 of the Dark Elf book.
Manticore
Should have the Uncontrollable (see the special rules for the Manticore) and the Killing Blow special rules.
I hope this all helps.
Dreadlord -
Cold One Mount - 30 points
Cold One Chariot - 90 points
Manticore - should not take a Hero slot when used as a mount for Lord characters (i.e. Dreadlord, Supreme Sorceress, and Hellebron)
Supreme Sorceress
Cold One Mount - 30 points
Manticore - See Dreadlord Entry
The Sect Enmity Rule no longer exists.
Dark Elf Sorceresses can use as many power dice to cast a spell as they wish.
Death Hag
Extra Hand Weapon - The Death Hag comes with two hand weapons, and does not need to pay extra for the second weapon (and in fact must take the second weapon)
Witches Brew - This is not being counted against the limit of Temple of Khaine items
Master
Missing the option to take a Beastmaster's Scourge
Cold One - Should be 20 points
Cold One Chariot - Should be 90 points
Sorceress
Cold One - Should be 20 points
The Sect Enmity Rule no longer exists.
Dark Elf Sorceresses can use as many power dice to cast a spell as they wish.
Beastmaster
This is now the name of the two models that accompany the War Hydra, and is no longer available as a seperate model. The entry in the Common section of the army list should be removed.
Corsairs
Reaver (Champion) - There's some discussion on this on Druchii.net, but I believe the Reaver should be able to take two Repeating Hand Bows in addition to his two melee weapons according to the rules as written. The list currently doesn't allow that.
Repeater Crossbowmen
Guardsman (Champion) - Currently shows a cost of 5 (which is what he should cost), but selecting him actually costs you 9 points.
Harpies
Should have a maximum unit size of 10.
Should have M5, BS0, and I5.
Black Guard
The entry for Black Guard in the list shows a minimum size of 10 models instead of 5 (adding a unit will correctly add 5 however).
Black Guard should have a maximum unit size of 20 models.
You can now add as many Black Guard units to your army as you wish. The 1.5 list only allows you to add 1.
Tower Master currently costs 13 points, and should cost 14.
Magic Banner - Should only be able to select a magic banner of up to 50 points.
Kouran - Should have the Armor of Grief
Executioners
The entry for Executioners in the list shows a minimum size of 10 models instead of 5 (adding a unit will correctly add 5 however).
Tullaris - Gets the "Sacred Slaughterer" rule; should have I5 and not I6
Shades
Bloodshade - The cost of weapon upgrades to the unit of Shades currently does not take into account a Bloodshade (if you have one). The Bloodshade can take a different weapon upgrade from the one the unit took (which the list should not allow), and the upgrade is free (which it should not be).
Witch Elves
Hag - Should be WS4
Unit can currently take a magic standard of up to 50 points; should be limited to 25
War Hydra
The former "Apprentices" are now "Beastmasters"
The Beastmasters are armed with a Beastmaster's Scourge (Hand Weapon, Armor Piercing) and a Hand Weapon
Hydra should have WS4 and W5
The reference to p.13 of the Dark Elf book is outdated. Instead the reference should be to p. 67 of the Basic Rule Book.
For the Beastmasters, you may want to include a reference to the Beastmaster rule on p. 58 of the Dark Elf book.
Manticore
Should have the Uncontrollable (see the special rules for the Manticore) and the Killing Blow special rules.
I hope this all helps.
Melinia said:
Thank you!!
and Fixed!!
Fixes:
1. Many fixes. Thank you Melina!
2. Special Characters still not done.
Issues:
1. I need a proof reading pass on Points, Stats and options.
We need to make sure each unit/character has all the options available to them, verify the points are correct and check everything's stat line for accuracy.
.
The Way to make Champs (look and feel like in the books) is to make the champs cost the unit cost under UNIT ...and under the option add the upgrade cost ... this will make it look nice, and calculate the right point price ... sadly it will then when selected add the 2 numbers together ... but that a generel bug in the fantasy file.
Black guard calculate wrong, but looks right.
Exec calculate right buts look wrong.
Shades calculate right but looks wrong.
Witch elves calculate right but looks wrong.
Cold old knights calculate right but looks wrong.
Corsairs calculate right but looks wrong.
Dark Riders calculate right but look wrong.
For other way to do what I just told you ... look at your warriors and x-box men.
Black guard calculate wrong, but looks right.
Exec calculate right buts look wrong.
Shades calculate right but looks wrong.
Witch elves calculate right but looks wrong.
Cold old knights calculate right but looks wrong.
Corsairs calculate right but looks wrong.
Dark Riders calculate right but look wrong.
For other way to do what I just told you ... look at your warriors and x-box men.
7th Edition Dark Elves 1.9 Beta
Okay this is fun... I downloaded the beta and unzipped it and it automatically placed itself into a "New Folder" called wh6_Dark_Elves. The first beta I downloaded into the original wh6 folder, made me unable to open wh6 or any other rosters with the error message of "3slash4 ST" and had to close the program.
I opened the wh6_Dark_Elves and I could create any new rosters, but if I tried to open an existing roster, it told me to switch back to the original wh6 folder, which then closed the program once again...
Can I get some sound advice on how I can fix this issue?
Thanks,
Okay this is fun... I downloaded the beta and unzipped it and it automatically placed itself into a "New Folder" called wh6_Dark_Elves. The first beta I downloaded into the original wh6 folder, made me unable to open wh6 or any other rosters with the error message of "3slash4 ST" and had to close the program.
I opened the wh6_Dark_Elves and I could create any new rosters, but if I tried to open an existing roster, it told me to switch back to the original wh6 folder, which then closed the program once again...
Can I get some sound advice on how I can fix this issue?
Thanks,
Re: 7th Edition Dark Elves 1.9 Beta
I made the Beta use a new folder, so it won't mess with your current AB files. The Beta changes a lot on the back end (internal programming), so any saved rosters will not work with new Beta versions typically.
Go back to Wolflair's main data page and Import the Warhammer Fantasy April 11th data file to reset your WH6 folder back to normal (Non-Beta).
Anything saved using WH6 folder should work after you re-import the basic version back. the Beta will not work with any saved rosters you have at all. Must make new ones from scratch. When you save the rosters from the Beta be sure to name them appropriately, so you will know they are Beta's in the future.
AbaddonAZ said:
I made the Beta use a new folder, so it won't mess with your current AB files. The Beta changes a lot on the back end (internal programming), so any saved rosters will not work with new Beta versions typically.
Go back to Wolflair's main data page and Import the Warhammer Fantasy April 11th data file to reset your WH6 folder back to normal (Non-Beta).
Anything saved using WH6 folder should work after you re-import the basic version back. the Beta will not work with any saved rosters you have at all. Must make new ones from scratch. When you save the rosters from the Beta be sure to name them appropriately, so you will know they are Beta's in the future.
Fixes done for new version, so far:
1. Assassin unit count is fixed (in the works). I left him as a stand alone option or unit upgrade.
2. Added slaver ability to Corsairs.
3. Fixed Dreadlord and Master weapon combination's.
4. Fixed Armor of Darkness.
5. Fixed Cloak of Hag Gref and mundane cloaks issues.
6. Fixed Tower Master/General option.
7. Black Guard are now Immune to Psychology, so dropped Hate High elves.
8. Chillwind changed to S4.
9. Fixed Dread Knights weapon options.
Issues:
1. Still working on unit champions costs.
2. Special Characters in the works.
1. Assassin unit count is fixed (in the works). I left him as a stand alone option or unit upgrade.
2. Added slaver ability to Corsairs.
3. Fixed Dreadlord and Master weapon combination's.
4. Fixed Armor of Darkness.
5. Fixed Cloak of Hag Gref and mundane cloaks issues.
6. Fixed Tower Master/General option.
7. Black Guard are now Immune to Psychology, so dropped Hate High elves.
8. Chillwind changed to S4.
9. Fixed Dread Knights weapon options.
Issues:
1. Still working on unit champions costs.
2. Special Characters in the works.