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Old November 1st, 2000, 05:39 PM
Colen,

WD 251 contained an ork Q&A under chapter approved. One of the things
mentioned was that basilisks can indeed take the indirect fire option.
No big deal since the latest AB file allows this.

What is interesting though is that this directly contradicts previous
assertions regarding looted vehicles, namely that looted vehicles are
taken from the bookdex and not subsequent codices. The indirect fire is
an option from the IG codex and was not an option in the bookdex so it
would not be available if the bookdex version were to be used. I now
believe there is sufficient proof that the codices over rule the bookdex
versions for looted vehicles, something I had no concrete evidence to
support previously. The latest WD provides said evidence and as such I
wonder if you will be amending the ork looted vehicles to reflect the
codices and not the bookdex

Cheers

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Old November 4th, 2000, 05:40 AM
One fine day in the middle of the night, Versif <petark@ntlworld.com>
got up to write:

>Colen,
>
>WD 251 contained an ork Q&A under chapter approved. One of the things
>mentioned was that basilisks can indeed take the indirect fire option.
>No big deal since the latest AB file allows this.

Indeed.

>What is interesting though is that this directly contradicts previous
>assertions regarding looted vehicles, namely that looted vehicles are
>taken from the bookdex and not subsequent codices. The indirect fire is
>an option from the IG codex and was not an option in the bookdex so it
>would not be available if the bookdex version were to be used. I now
>believe there is sufficient proof that the codices over rule the bookdex
>versions for looted vehicles, something I had no concrete evidence to
>support previously. The latest WD provides said evidence and as such I
>wonder if you will be amending the ork looted vehicles to reflect the
>codices and not the bookdex

That's the exception, not the rule.

To say "Well, you can now take Indirect Fire on looted Basilisks, so
let's imagine that GW, despite not saying so when then would have been a
perfect opportunity, meant that you could now take *all* rulebook
vehicles" seems to me to be the worst form of imbecility.

I.e.: No.

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Old November 4th, 2000, 07:32 AM
Colin,

I have a question about looted vehicles for you. The reason I am asking
is your vast knowledge of the rules. I was looking at the lootat the
Deveastators to be exact now they may take a rhino And the way I see it
this would not count as a looted vehicle as it would be part of the D
squads equipment.

I may be way off track on this but I am not sure.

So if you would not mind thinking about this one and letting us know.

Thanks
Wes.

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> One fine day in the middle of the night, Versif <petark@ntlworld.com>
> got up to write:
>
> >Colen,
> >
> >WD 251 contained an ork Q&A under chapter approved. One of the things
>
> >mentioned was that basilisks can indeed take the indirect fire
> option.
> >No big deal since the latest AB file allows this.
>
> Indeed.
>
> >What is interesting though is that this directly contradicts previous
>
> >assertions regarding looted vehicles, namely that looted vehicles are
>
> >taken from the bookdex and not subsequent codices. The indirect fire
> is
> >an option from the IG codex and was not an option in the bookdex so
> it
> >would not be available if the bookdex version were to be used. I now
>
> >believe there is sufficient proof that the codices over rule the
> bookdex
> >versions for looted vehicles, something I had no concrete evidence to
>
> >support previously. The latest WD provides said evidence and as such
> I
> >wonder if you will be amending the ork looted vehicles to reflect the
>
> >codices and not the bookdex
>
> That's the exception, not the rule.
>
> To say "Well, you can now take Indirect Fire on looted Basilisks, so
> let's imagine that GW, despite not saying so when then would have been
> a
> perfect opportunity, meant that you could now take *all* rulebook
> vehicles" seems to me to be the worst form of imbecility.
>
> I.e.: No.
>
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Old November 4th, 2000, 09:14 AM
In this article 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills
<demandred@skrill.org> wrote
>To say "Well, you can now take Indirect Fire on looted Basilisks, so
>let's imagine that GW, despite not saying so when then would have been a
>perfect opportunity, meant that you could now take *all* rulebook
>vehicles" seems to me to be the worst form of imbecility.
>
>I.e.: No.
Fair enough, but there are lots of things that GW also didn't answer in
the Q&A so hardly imbecility, rather a reasonable question since it
shows they are using codex rather then bookdex for looted vehicles.
Rudeness to a reasonable question hardly becomes you.

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Old November 4th, 2000, 11:41 AM
One fine day in the middle of the night, W.C. [Noel VH]
<noelvh@bigfoot.com> got up to write:

> Colin,
>
> I have a question about looted vehicles for you. The reason I am asking
>is your vast knowledge of the rules. I was looking at the lootat the
>Deveastators to be exact now they may take a rhino And the way I see it
>this would not count as a looted vehicle as it would be part of the D
>squads equipment.

The words are coming in, but I'm not making anything of them

What do you mean by the above?

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Old November 4th, 2000, 11:43 AM
One fine day in the middle of the night, Versif <petark@ntlworld.com>
got up to write:

>In this article 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills
><demandred@skrill.org> wrote
>>To say "Well, you can now take Indirect Fire on looted Basilisks, so
>>let's imagine that GW, despite not saying so when then would have been a
>>perfect opportunity, meant that you could now take *all* rulebook
>>vehicles" seems to me to be the worst form of imbecility.
>>
>>I.e.: No.
>Fair enough, but there are lots of things that GW also didn't answer in
>the Q&A so hardly imbecility, rather a reasonable question since it
>shows they are using codex rather then bookdex for looted vehicles.

Yes, in one case. It would have been a perfect time to say that they
would extend this to other things, but they didn't.

>Rudeness to a reasonable question hardly becomes you.

*bow

If I appeared rude, good sir, you have my deepest apologies.

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Old November 4th, 2000, 11:48 AM
To sum up what I was trying to say.
If the rhino is equipment for a deveastator can you then say it dose not
count as a looted vehicle?

Wes.

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> One fine day in the middle of the night, W.C. [Noel VH]
> <noelvh@bigfoot.com> got up to write:
>
> > Colin,
> >
> > I have a question about looted vehicles for you. The reason I am
> asking
> >is your vast knowledge of the rules. I was looking at the lootat the
> >Deveastators to be exact now they may take a rhino And the way I see
> it
> >this would not count as a looted vehicle as it would be part of the D
>
> >squads equipment.
>
> The words are coming in, but I'm not making anything of them
>
> What do you mean by the above?
>
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Old November 4th, 2000, 11:52 AM
> To sum up what I was trying to say.
> If the rhino is equipment for a deveastator can you then say it dose not
> count as a looted vehicle?

The Rhino is a transport option for a Dev squad - it isnt equipment as such.


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Old November 4th, 2000, 11:59 AM
One fine day in the middle of the night, W.C. [Noel VH]
<noelvh@bigfoot.com> got up to write:

> To sum up what I was trying to say.
>If the rhino is equipment for a deveastator can you then say it dose not
>count as a looted vehicle?

Do you mean:

"Can I make my Lootas take the equipment of a Devastator squad,
including their Rhino, and have it not count as a looted vehicle"?

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Old November 4th, 2000, 12:07 PM
Yes! I could not find the words sorry.

Wes.

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> One fine day in the middle of the night, W.C. [Noel VH]
> <noelvh@bigfoot.com> got up to write:
>
> > To sum up what I was trying to say.
> >If the rhino is equipment for a deveastator can you then say it dose
> not
> >count as a looted vehicle?
>
> Do you mean:
>
> "Can I make my Lootas take the equipment of a Devastator squad,
> including their Rhino, and have it not count as a looted vehicle"?
>
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