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The additional HD issue - make sure you're creating an NPC, not a PC

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hangarflying

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Just installed the new 6.10 update (as well as purchasing the Bestiary 3) and one of my previous builds, a Dread Ghoul Dire Bat with an extra 2 HD, now has flags on it. Specifically, it says that the "Additional HD" is not permitted. Why? Did something get messed up?

Thanks.
 
Yep, same problems with the Additional HD. The validation message I get is

Additional HD: This selection is not permitted (all effects are ignored)
 
Adding additional hit dice to clockwork soldier

I am trying to add additional hit dice to a clockwork servant (PF Bestiary 3).

I created a new portfolio and set the race to Clockwork Soldier. On the class tab, I clicked on "click here to add class levels or hit dice", selected additional hit dice and added 9 hit dice. The option wasn't grayed out as an invalid option, and the additional levels did show up (although the HP column was set to 9999 and the Lvl column showed 0).

However, the Additional HD "levels" were in red. The validation report just said "Additional HD: this selection is not permitted (all effects are ignored)". Checking the Customize button on the Background tab didn't change anything.

How am I supposed to add additional hit dice?

Troy
 
Additional HD error!

Since updating to Bestiary 3 the additional HD feature appears to be broken. Attached screenshot shows the problem.
 

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bodrin said:
Since updating to Bestiary 3 the additional HD feature appears to be broken. Attached screenshot shows the problem.
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Just to add a bit more information - not only is there a validation error, but the error message reads "This selection is not permitted (All effects are ignored)"

This is unlike other Validation Errors that just give the warning but allow one to implement the effect anyway.
 
Mowgli said:
Just to add a bit more information - not only is there a validation error, but the error message reads "This selection is not permitted (All effects are ignored)"

This is unlike other Validation Errors that just give the warning but allow one to implement the effect anyway.
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I've found that if you go into the "Configure Hero" dialog and tick the "Allow PCs to add bonus HD" option then things work as they should. Even if the creature in question is defined as an NPC.

Also seems to be a valid workaround for the "Size Increase" bug that a few have noticed in the latest update.
 
When you want to add additional HD or size increases to a monster, make sure you have set the character as an NPC, and not as a PC on the configure hero form (you can get back to the configure hero form for an existing character by going to the Character menu and choosing "Configure Hero".

The assumption is that PCs from monstrous races will advance by class levels, not by additional HD.
 
Mathias said:
When you want to add additional HD or size increases to a monster, make sure you have set the character as an NPC, and not as a PC on the configure hero form (you can get back to the configure hero form for an existing character by going to the Character menu and choosing "Configure Hero".

The assumption is that PCs from monstrous races will advance by class levels, not by additional HD.
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That ain't it...it least not for me.

I had already created this particular character before the last major update and everything was fine up 'till then. What's more, any additional characters I make (even now as NPCs) still have the same problem.
 
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jat470 said:
That ain't it...it least not for me.

I had already created this particular character before the last major update and everything was fine up 'till then. What's more, any additional characters I make (even now as NPCs) still have the same problem.
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This is my error too!
 
Can anyone give me a set of steps to replicate the error you're encountering? I can't figure out how to create any errors with the additional HD as long as the character is an NPC.
 
Mathias said:
Can anyone give me a set of steps to replicate the error you're encountering? I can't figure out how to create any errors with the additional HD as long as the character is an NPC.
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Create new portfolio. NPC. Enemy. Select Giant Stag beetle. Add additional hit Dice. See previously attached screenshot for results. All official supplemental sources selected in configure hero options.
 
I still get the same errors as well - any combination I have tried of PC/NPC, enemy/ally, several different races, all result in dependency errors and the additional HD or size increase having no effect.
 
Same error here (with creating an NPC). However, if I check the option "Allow PCs to add Bonus HD" when creating the portfolio it works fine with NPCs.
 
Mathias said:
Can anyone give me a set of steps to replicate the error you're encountering? I can't figure out how to create any errors with the additional HD as long as the character is an NPC.
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I am still getting the "not allowed" error for NPCs that I add more HD to. :(

To replicate the error take any race with racial HD and add a Extra HD. The new HD will show as an error and will not alter anything. It happens EVEN WHEN THE character is an NPC!
 
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