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Human subrace issues

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cyberqat

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I am trying to create a human subrace that is like variant human but grants a specific feat and 2 assignable +1 ability.

I thought I could add it as a "Bonus Feat" but its not showing up on the character, and I cannot figure out at all how to set it for two user assignable +1 ability settings.

Some directions would be really helpful.
 
Update: the bonus feat shows up under the feats list, but not on the edit panels.

How do I add a feat with fields that are selecteable by the user?
 
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Okay so the magic Initiate shows up on the Special tab as Magic Initiate (-chose-) but I cant find anyway to chose??
 
1st, to make sure I understand tou issue correctly, you are using the Human variant in the Community Pack? Correct?

If this is correct once you select Human as your race, on the race Tab. select Add optional Variant Trait. This should work,

If it doesn't. If it doesn't, then make sure that you have the 5E Cummunity Pack correctly installed. The Human Varient is not part of the SRD rules so it was added by the Community Pack. If neither of these are you issue get back to me and we'll try something else. :)
 
No. I am trying to create a human subrace which is something like the variant, but not the same in that the bonus feat is fixed.

These are the stats for the sub-race:

+1 to intelligence
+1 to 2 other attributes (player choice)
Bonus Feat: Magic Initiate
Bonus Language: Sueloise
 
By the way, if this isnt possible in the editor and I have to drop down yo XML I can do that, provided I have the right docs/inbstructions. Sample XML would be helpful in that case...
 
You don't need to work in XML the editor solves 99% of all issues because its scripting that you need to do not XML.

I would advise by finding other Things that do similar logic in 5e and look at those scripts (Feats, Races, Spells, Traits, Archetypes). Adjustments are nice places to get scripting examples from. A script on a Feat works 99% the same way as when running on a Racial Special. Daplunk has a whole WIKI on the community GitHub site to help. :)

I would recommend reading the Glossary of Terms for the Editor. Then check out FAQ#2 for all the places to learn about the editor including YouTube videos.
 
cyberqat said:
No. I am trying to create a human subrace which is something like the variant, but not the same in that the bonus feat is fixed.

These are the stats for the sub-race:

+1 to intelligence
+1 to 2 other attributes (player choice)
Bonus Feat: Magic Initiate
Bonus Language: Sueloise
Click to expand...

I've been investigating something similar for my campaign, look at the half-elf racial ability (raHElfAbil) - this shows you how to make a +1 to CHA and then choose two others to add +1 to. Copy that and wherever CHA is mentioned, replace it with INT.

When you make a copy of the Variant Humans (raHumVar) and call it "Sueloise Humans" you'll replace the bootstrap raHumFeat (correction: raHumAbAlt) with your new racial special ability above.

The bonus feat and language are added with some more eval scripting that I haven't figured out but I went a different route with my "Humans of Oerth" and decided to create custom Backgrounds with racial flavors (like Scarlet Brotherhood Assassin - which grants poisoner's tool kit proficiency and the language Ancient Suloise, for example).

I disagree with you from a lore standpoint - giving pure Suel human the Magic Initiate feat means that your Frost/Snow/Ice Barbarians are running around with a potential to cast magic missile - which is world busting. :)

Personally, I might grant them access to one or two wizard cantrips using Intelligence as their casting ability (using the High Elf as a basis for my modifications) if I went the path you're looking at.
 
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Heh. This is Living Greyhawk rules, not mine :)

I assume in all this you dropped to the XML rather then using the editor?

What XML file actually contains the variant human? I havent been able to find it, even with a grep....
 
No, I pretty much use the editor for everything since it can do everything you're asking about.

The core SRD information is hardcoded, so you have to use the following trick to see it in XML.

In HL - Tools - Show Editor
Make a new data file.
New(Copy) the thing you want to see how works
Save the file
Use any text editor to open the file to see the XML.

Trying to write anything in XML and then debugging is harder - in the editor you have the handy "TEST NOW!" button that shows you where you made the mistake, if you make an error in XML and then reload hero lab to test, it will refuse to load any of the custom .user files if it finds an error in a single one of them, and then you have to remove the offending .user file from the load directories and start over.
 
Attached is my working version of what you wanted, you can download the text file and pick the XML apart. My personal Identifier variable is 5EL, you'll want to swap with whatever you are using.

+1 to INT, select 2 others

Recreates the feat Magic Initiate as a Racial Feat (still calls the configure item of Magic Initiate though)

Adds "Ancient Suloise" to racial languages.
(for the language you'll need to replace "l5ELASuloi" with your language ID tag.
 
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