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Realm Works Content Market - Pricing Details & More

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Pollution no one knows yet. There is currently. NO official Paizo content for fantasy grounds, although it appears some content is undergoing Paizo review for release. My bet is that once the review is complete, there will be the same feces storm over there when Paizo lays down the same law.

As for the hard copy folks, people need to realize that it is just a sad fact that the local game store is in for a slow death. I hate to see that but I think it is true. Malls and Walmart killed many local businesses. Now malls are closing down as amazon and "outlet" malls take over.

My guess is Paizo would happily give credit for hard copies if there were a way to do it. If you bought it from them, they could validate just as they are doing for the PDFs. But then retailers and amazon would raise their own hue and cry. There just is no way to do what you want because short of ripping pages out of your book, there is no way to validate purchase.

I am glad that at least PDF owners have a way to save a few bucks.
 
For FG I've found this post:

Fantasy Grounds licensed content for Pathfinder will be sold on Steam and on the Fantasy Grounds site at a fixed cost per item. As far as I can tell, the costs will be the MSRP print price. There might be an option at some point to buy from the Paizo store at a slight discount if you already own the print or PDF product there.
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https://www.fantasygrounds.com/foru...inder-support!&p=320108&viewfull=1#post320108


So it looks like: Yes they seem to have a different model, but it's in this case you are buying the same content twice for the same price.

So using the Emerald Spire as an example:

You do not own the PDF:
The Fantasy Ground option is: 34$ might be lower on FG sales.
Realm Works: 25$ (PDF) + 18$ --> 43$, might get lower in case of a PDF or LW sales.

You do already own the PDF:
Fantasy Grounds: 34$ might be lower on FG sales.
Realm Works: 0$ (PDF) + 18$ --> 18$. Might get lower in case of a LW sale.
 
Pollution said:
Here's a thought. Do you have to own the PDF with a Fantasy Grounds purchase?

I don't think so, but I only own ETU and Savage Worlds.

If you don't then LW is getting screwed.
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Maybe, but if they don't have an already purchased PDF option, you will just pay a lot more for the item instead.
 
One thing for FG and Pathfinder s that most of the core stuff content has already been done in a unofficial version based on the Pathfinder Reference site. So all the monster details, character classes, NPCs from books, are entered into FG modules that you can download for free.

The next build of FG that is in beta testing is mostly for the official Pathfinder stuff. What we know is being released is the Core book, the Bestiary, and Rise of the Runelords initially.
 
Jay I don't know where you got that. A recent post said that the materials that are on review include emerald spire and not any of the core rules. In fact, they are modding the software to aupport core rules material.
 
Older post said that for FG I read a few weeks back if I recall correctly. Those are supposed to be in the works unless something changed. I don't play Pathfinder so I'm not following the FG news for it closely.
 
A big difference is that Fantasy Grounds already has an established Content Market mechanism. Whatever DRM they have in place may have to be "good enough", and the contract between them and Paizo may be very different than the one for Realm Works because of it.
 
So Basically....

For Pathfinder
1) If you have the PDF and proof of purchase. Realm Works would be cheaper as you just pay the Realm Works Content package price vs Fantasy Grounds having to pay the PDF MSRP.
2) If you have a hard copy or PDF with no proof, Fantasy Grounds is cheaper as you just pay the MSRP for the PDF vs both the MSRP for PDF and Realm Works Content Package

For D and D 5E
1) Realm Works has nothing for you right not...nothing. So go to Fantasy Grounds if you want pre made Content as they have official WOTC content at MSRP.

Sad thing here is that the Content Market is not even live and people are either
1) upset with LWD about Pathfinder Content Market/pdf fiasco.
2) upset with no D & D 5e content being released and the fact that they are not going to have any WOTC products.
3) Talking about a competitors product on the LWD forum and linking to the competitors website.

Not sure the Content Market is turning out to be what LWD had envisioned, maybe they should see if Fantasy Grounds or Roll20 can give them a referral kickback.
 
You couldn't convince me to go to Fantasy Grounds unless I was playing online. Two very different tools and as far as Campaign Management goes... one is greater than the other.
 
gaffneyks said:
1) upset with LWD about Pathfinder Content Market/pdf fiasco.
2) upset with no D & D 5e content being released and the fact that they are not going to have any WOTC products.
3) Talking about a competitors product on the LWD forum and linking to the competitors website.
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Be very careful thinking this TINY set of voices represents everyone in the gaming community.
 
Pollution said:
Here's a thought. Do you have to own the PDF with a Fantasy Grounds purchase?

I don't think so, but I only own ETU and Savage Worlds.

If you don't then LW is getting screwed.
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Fantasy Grounds will be under the same restrictions we are.
 
kbs666 said:
They don't think so.
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/foru...inder-support!&p=320108&viewfull=1#post320108
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I'm pretty sure they're wrong. In the same news release Paizo announced that they had granted a license to both Fantasy Grounds and D20Pro. In the news release on DA20Pro they talked about Paizo developing the back end services to support PDF validation and synchronization between platforms. I seriously doubt Fantasy Grounds got different license terms than LWD and D20Pro.
 
gaffneyks said:
If you have a hard copy or PDF with no proof, Fantasy Grounds is cheaper as you just pay the MSRP for the PDF vs both the MSRP for PDF and Realm Works Content Package
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The post on the FG site said MSRP for print, not MSRP for PDF. That seems to fit the general pricing scheme used around this niche industry.

gaffneyks said:
Sad thing here is that the Content Market is not even live and people are either
1) upset with LWD about Pathfinder Content Market/pdf fiasco.
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Not everyone is upset. As a former subscriber and someone who appreciates both physical books and the portability of PDF versions of them, I see Paizo's licensing setup as a good value proposition for me if/when I run Pathfinder campaigns in the future.

(I'm still hoping for a good color e-ink reader. Someday. Maybe in 20 years. :(


gaffneyks said:
2) upset with no D & D 5e content being released and the fact that they are not going to have any WOTC products.
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I don't play 5e at present and don't have any plans to do so, so this doesn't bother me either. I do hope that WotC/Hasbro and LWD come to an agreement at some point, though, as I think it would benefit both of them and their interested GMs and players.

gaffneyks said:
3) Talking about a competitors product on the LWD forum and linking to the competitors website.
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People are going to compare products, whether here or on more general sites. With multiple products announcing content licensing at roughly the same time, you might as well let folks get it out of their system unless correcting inaccuracies becomes too much customer service work.
 
BJ said:
Fantasy Grounds will be under the same restrictions we are.
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It sounds like that's not the case and reading between the lines its due specifically to their involvement with Steam. Steam wouldn't allow the type of check that Paizo are asking for. Therefore we can assume the discussion was had and a line in the sand was drawn. I would wager Paizo agreed to step over that line for FG due to the popularity of the tool.

All assumptions, but Steam has a history of being difficult to work with in situations like this.
 
Steam doesn't have to play.... Simple as that. And since FG is committed to that platform for distribution, their choices are limited. It's a double-edged sword.
 
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