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Courageous magic weapon special ability
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We were uncertain about what the RAI for this power actually were, so we asked Paizo for clarification. Here's the question and answer (from Sean Reynolds):
We were uncertain about what the RAI for this power actually were, so we asked Paizo for clarification. Here's the question, with the answer (from Sean Reynolds):
--The Courageous Weapon power (Ultimate Equipment pg. 138) says “The wielder gains a morale bonus on saving throws against fear equal to the weapon’s enhancement bonus. In addition, any morale bonus the wielder gains from any other source is increased by half the wielder’s enhancement bonus (minimum 1).” Our reading of this is that the second part is referring to other morale bonuses to save vs. fear – for example, a fighter’s Bravery ability – those abilities are increased in strength, so that this weapon power isn’t useless for fighters. Others read this as improving all morale bonuses to anything else on the character – they’re usually adding it to a barbarian, to improve the rage bonuses. It seems that improving rage to 1½x its normal strength is a very powerful effect, which should cost much more than the +1 bonus with this weapon, so we wanted to verify how it should be used.
The second part should only affect morale bonuses to saves (fear or otherwise).
We were uncertain about what the RAI for this power actually were, so we asked Paizo for clarification. Here's the question and answer (from Sean Reynolds):
We were uncertain about what the RAI for this power actually were, so we asked Paizo for clarification. Here's the question, with the answer (from Sean Reynolds):
--The Courageous Weapon power (Ultimate Equipment pg. 138) says “The wielder gains a morale bonus on saving throws against fear equal to the weapon’s enhancement bonus. In addition, any morale bonus the wielder gains from any other source is increased by half the wielder’s enhancement bonus (minimum 1).” Our reading of this is that the second part is referring to other morale bonuses to save vs. fear – for example, a fighter’s Bravery ability – those abilities are increased in strength, so that this weapon power isn’t useless for fighters. Others read this as improving all morale bonuses to anything else on the character – they’re usually adding it to a barbarian, to improve the rage bonuses. It seems that improving rage to 1½x its normal strength is a very powerful effect, which should cost much more than the +1 bonus with this weapon, so we wanted to verify how it should be used.
The second part should only affect morale bonuses to saves (fear or otherwise).
We have not had a chance to implement this change yet. It is on our to-do list.
No worries. Thanks for the clarification!
Actually, since the description isn't clear, Hero Lab lists the bonus from this weapon enhancement under situational bonuses and penalties: courageous +4 moral vs fear (+2 stacks with similar) this text is there whether the character has a moral bonus (like heroism) active or not.
Until I found this very threat today, I was not aware that +2 stacks with similar is supposed to mean, stacks with existing moral bonuses (but only of you actually get them), since this interpretation can't be deduced from the item as written.
Obviously not your fault, but maybe you could make this effect a little bit more obvious.
Until I found this very threat today, I was not aware that +2 stacks with similar is supposed to mean, stacks with existing moral bonuses (but only of you actually get them), since this interpretation can't be deduced from the item as written.
Obviously not your fault, but maybe you could make this effect a little bit more obvious.