The additional HD issue - make sure you're creating an NPC, not a PC

hangarflying · December 23rd, 2011, 11:52 PM

Just installed the new 6.10 update (as well as purchasing the Bestiary 3) and one of my previous builds, a Dread Ghoul Dire Bat with an extra 2 HD, now has flags on it. Specifically, it says that the "Additional HD" is not permitted. Why? Did something get messed up?

Thanks.

Agyess · December 24th, 2011, 07:34 AM

The additional HD button seems to be broken.

jat470 · December 24th, 2011, 08:18 AM

Having the same problems--can't add hit dice, or size increases. Bug?

TopCat · December 24th, 2011, 02:07 PM

Yep, same problems with the Additional HD. The validation message I get is

Additional HD: This selection is not permitted (all effects are ignored)

dartnet · December 26th, 2011, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TopCat

Yep, same problems with the Additional HD. The validation message I get is

Additional HD: This selection is not permitted (all effects are ignored)

Same here.

Also the same thing is happens with Size Increase.

udalrich · December 27th, 2011, 01:07 PM

I am trying to add additional hit dice to a clockwork servant (PF Bestiary 3).

I created a new portfolio and set the race to Clockwork Soldier. On the class tab, I clicked on "click here to add class levels or hit dice", selected additional hit dice and added 9 hit dice. The option wasn't grayed out as an invalid option, and the additional levels did show up (although the HP column was set to 9999 and the Lvl column showed 0).

However, the Additional HD "levels" were in red. The validation report just said "Additional HD: this selection is not permitted (all effects are ignored)". Checking the Customize button on the Background tab didn't change anything.

How am I supposed to add additional hit dice?

Troy

bodrin · December 30th, 2011, 03:32 AM

Since updating to Bestiary 3 the additional HD feature appears to be broken. Attached screenshot shows the problem.

Maidhc O Casain · December 30th, 2011, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bodrin

Since updating to Bestiary 3 the additional HD feature appears to be broken. Attached screenshot shows the problem.

Just to add a bit more information - not only is there a validation error, but the error message reads "This selection is not permitted (All effects are ignored)"

This is unlike other Validation Errors that just give the warning but allow one to implement the effect anyway.

TopCat · December 30th, 2011, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mowgli

Just to add a bit more information - not only is there a validation error, but the error message reads "This selection is not permitted (All effects are ignored)"

This is unlike other Validation Errors that just give the warning but allow one to implement the effect anyway.

I've found that if you go into the "Configure Hero" dialog and tick the "Allow PCs to add bonus HD" option then things work as they should. Even if the creature in question is defined as an NPC.

Also seems to be a valid workaround for the "Size Increase" bug that a few have noticed in the latest update.

Mathias · January 3rd, 2012, 08:18 AM

When you want to add additional HD or size increases to a monster, make sure you have set the character as an NPC, and not as a PC on the configure hero form (you can get back to the configure hero form for an existing character by going to the Character menu and choosing "Configure Hero".

The assumption is that PCs from monstrous races will advance by class levels, not by additional HD.

hangarflying Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 35 December 23rd, 2011, 11:52 PM	Just installed the new 6.10 update (as well as purchasing the Bestiary 3) and one of my previous builds, a Dread Ghoul Dire Bat with an extra 2 HD, now has flags on it. Specifically, it says that the "Additional HD" is not permitted. Why? Did something get messed up? Thanks.
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Agyess Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: NorCal Posts: 112 December 24th, 2011, 07:34 AM	The additional HD button seems to be broken.
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jat470 Junior Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 17 December 24th, 2011, 08:18 AM	Having the same problems--can't add hit dice, or size increases. Bug?
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TopCat Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 74 December 24th, 2011, 02:07 PM	Yep, same problems with the Additional HD. The validation message I get is Additional HD: This selection is not permitted (all effects are ignored)
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Mathias Senior Member Lone Wolf Staff Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 13,217 January 3rd, 2012, 08:18 AM	When you want to add additional HD or size increases to a monster, make sure you have set the character as an NPC, and not as a PC on the configure hero form (you can get back to the configure hero form for an existing character by going to the Character menu and choosing "Configure Hero". The assumption is that PCs from monstrous races will advance by class levels, not by additional HD.
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