Content Market Disappointment-no 5e in Initial release

[BJ]

Originally Posted by Gwydion

Thanks, BJ! Yep, I cast my vote early this morning. Appreciate you reaching out to us all to ask what we are most interested in.

Thank you for voting!

[Jay_NOLA]

Are the images going to be just usable for Realm Works? Are they Royalty free ones? $5 for 10 images is high if they are not going to be Royalty free and usable only in Realm Works. You can go buy royalty free images for about that price or maybe a little bit more on several sites.

I don't play Pathfinder so the content market has nothing of interest to me currently.

Also, how are art/map packs going to be submitted to the Content Market?

[daplunk]

This is the only reason I would buy the pictures... If they can't be reused in future commercial content I would sooner just cut and paste from Google...

[Lkj]

Originally Posted by BJ

. . . As for official WOTC content, that may be a thing of the far future but brace yourselves for the cost if it is . . .

So, the high cost wouldn't surprise me, given how other licensees have had to price the WotC data. But the 'may be a thing of the far future' is disappointing. Here's hoping you're being coy.

AD

P.S. And I did go and take the survey

[Silveras]

Originally Posted by daplunk

This is the only reason I would buy the pictures... If they can't be reused in future commercial content I would sooner just cut and paste from Google...

Just like any content you purchase from the Content Market, I would expect that the rights for commercial use remain with the originator. Purchases would be for private use only. I would be very surprised if the right to use images in commercial products was included.

[Farling]

Originally Posted by daplunk

This is the only reason I would buy the pictures... If they can't be reused in future commercial content I would sooner just cut and paste from Google...

Assuming that you can prove that all the pictures you cut and pasted from Google have given you permission to sell them ;-)

[Mystic Lemur]

The reason she said "far future" wasn't to be coy. WotC very likely doesn't see this format as a priority for them. They have always been behind the times when it comes to digital distribution.

[daplunk]

Originally Posted by Farling

Assuming that you can prove that all the pictures you cut and pasted from Google have given you permission to sell them ;-)

Sorry my point here is, if they can't be used for commercial reasons I have no reason to buy them in the first place. If things I'm going to use personally I have Google.

The reason I would go out of my way to buy pictures is for me to use them in commercial products. Even if its just free content provided to the community.

I wouldn't use Google Pics in commercial products unless I knew they were in the public domain.

[Lanmalchior]

I've been buying WOTC product since back when it was TSR and own hundreds of their books. I probably owned 85-90% of their product up through 3.5 and since we started gaming again I'm back in on buying all the 5th edition stuff.

That WOTC has not found a way to come in on this or done so in an affordable way is really disappointing. I'd gladly pay SRP on hard cover WOTC product I already own just to save myself the time and hassle of taking my own copies and entering them myself. I actually started to enter some stuff and stopped as I was hoping I could just pay $50 for a book and be done with it. If they aren't available right off I'll just go and putting it in myself and move on. If it comes out at a later date it stinks for LWD, but I'm not going to buy it if I've already put that time in. LWD loses out, WOTC loses out and I'm going to save money, but lose out on time.

I get that WOTC or any company needs to make money on the games they put out, but we are the engine that drives their business and supporting us helps them. If I'm running a game and a new player item comes out I know six copies of that item will be sold just because I'm running a game. We are the heart of what makes the whole industry money. When we are running games new miniatures, dice, paint, game books, dice bags, software, even music, etc. gets sold. In an age where our pen and paper experience is competing with console games that have tens of millions of dollars spent on them and Marvel is making amazingly eye catching content with great stories too, I'd hope we would get more love. The easier and more engaging we can make the experience the more players who will come to the table and stick around.

WOTC and others are you listening? We are the heart of the game, help us help you.

[gaffneyks]

Originally Posted by Mystic Lemur

The reason she said "far future" wasn't to be coy. WotC very likely doesn't see this format as a priority for them. They have always been behind the times when it comes to digital distribution.

Which is strange as they seem to have totally embraced the Virtual Tabletop companies(or at least Fantasy Grounds and Roll20). It just seems strange and disappointing that they and LWD cannot come to an agreement. Of course LWD seems to embrace having someone else do the data entry part of their products(example Army Builder data files or Hero Lab for 5e community pack) maybe that was a sticking point.

Originally Posted by Lanmalchior

I've been buying WOTC product since back when it was TSR and own hundreds of their books. I probably owned 85-90% of their product up through 3.5 and since we started gaming again I'm back in on buying all the 5th edition stuff.

That WOTC has not found a way to come in on this or done so in an affordable way is really disappointing. I'd gladly pay SRP on hard cover WOTC product I already own just to save myself the time and hassle of taking my own copies and entering them myself. I actually started to enter some stuff and stopped as I was hoping I could just pay $50 for a book and be done with it. If they aren't available right off I'll just go and putting it in myself and move on. If it comes out at a later date it stinks for LWD, but I'm not going to buy it if I've already put that time in. LWD loses out, WOTC loses out and I'm going to save money, but lose out on time.

Pretty much same for me. Both groups I DM have players that prefer to play in the Forgotten Realms so i will either switch to another product like a VTT and move away for using Realm Works for the games I DM or enter the info myself into Realm Works and never use the content market. Either way Content Market is a disappointment for me even before it goes live. Pretty sad.