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Sync without closing client

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Thrawn21

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Hello,

I might be blind, but I am currently not seeing any way to sync the Database to the Cloud without first closing the Client.
During a session, it is quite annoying if you have to close the client just to release a picture to the players.

Hope you can point me to the right direction,

Thrawn
 
Thrawn, it sounds like you're looking to do real-time reveal to your players. Unfortunately, real-time reveal through Player Edition is not currently supported. Player Edition is used most often as a reference for previous sessions.

Real-time updates can be shared via the Player View window within your copy of Realm Works. If you're playing in-person, you can show the player view window on your laptop or an external monitor.
 
Will you be able to do real time reveals through the web client? I ask because I have the potential to run a new instance of my campaign for a group over the web.
 
Im also looking for saving/syncing the realm in this way. Usually, I do work for some time on the realm and in the end, I would like to sync the changes to the cloud. Currently, for that to happen I have to close the program, open it again, login again and then sync. Is there a way to tell RW to close the editor part and open up the realms list afterwards instead of closing down completely?
 
Push updates would be so nice...I often reveal during games and my players could really benefit from seeing the names of the new NPCs during the conversation. I can't take the time for the Switch Realms-Sync-Reopen cycle when I'm trying to play a couple of NPCs.

I'd have to say it is RealmWorks biggest product performance miss from my perspective.
 
Micco said:
Push updates would be so nice...I often reveal during games and my players could really benefit from seeing the names of the new NPCs during the conversation. I can't take the time for the Switch Realms-Sync-Reopen cycle when I'm trying to play a couple of NPCs.

I'd have to say it is RealmWorks biggest product performance miss from my perspective.
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Anything that allows more immediate updates to the Player Version starts moving into the territory of VTT, which RW is trying to avoid. The player view is designed for showing things to players during a gaming session.
 
Farling said:
Anything that allows more immediate updates to the Player Version starts moving into the territory of VTT, which RW is trying to avoid. The player view is designed for showing things to players during a gaming session.
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The thing is the player view requires a second screen or some such which not all of us have. Being able to push updates would be helpful in an environment where everyone plays with some screen in front of them, all of my players use HL already.
 
kbs666 said:
The thing is the player view requires a second screen or some such which not all of us have. Being able to push updates would be helpful in an environment where everyone plays with some screen in front of them, all of my players use HL already.
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A second screen, while nice, is not necessary. We also envisioned GMs with Realm Works on their laptop. They work from their laptop, switch to player view and flip their laptop around to show the players, and then face the laptop back towards them to keep playing.
 
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liz said:
A second screen, while nice, is not necessary. We also envisioned GMs with Realm Works on their laptop. They work from their laptop, switch to player view and flip their laptop around to show the players, and then face the laptop back towards them to keep playing.
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Indeed, the Player View screen appears as a separate (stacked) icon in the windows task bar, so it is very easy to switch to the player view full-screen window and the normal RW application window. I guess ALT-TAB would also allow you to switch :-)
 
I just wanted to add, that with the online viewer that is coming soon, it would be even better to get realm works live sync in.

I would really like to beeing able to give the players my android tablet, log them into a player account and enable them to browse the known information, or to use it as a players view screen that I can command from my laptop.
 
I´ve got to say that player view doesn´t work for me. The tool I envision is a live or pushed sync so that revealed information is visible to players on short notice. Turning or passing around laptops is cumbersome and a second monitor shows only what the GM wants to show. For figuring out clues the information has to be interactively available to the players. It´s the one reason I still rely on physical handouts. Web access would be a huge step.
 
kbs666 said:
The thing is the player view requires a second screen or some such which not all of us have. Being able to push updates would be helpful in an environment where everyone plays with some screen in front of them, all of my players use HL already.
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I know not everyone has a ton of cash lying around, but a small TV or monitor works great for a second screen at the table, and can cost as little as $100. I HIGHLY recommend getting one for your group, as it adds a TON of cool functionality.

That being said, it would be nice for tablets to have live reveal off the web interface for store or convention events.
 
I don't know what the technical issue involved with live sync are, but I'm guessing it is a big enough hurdle that this is something that won't be available for a while as LWD works through their development timeline. It just doesn't have very high priority based upon past user polls. I guessing (and it is only a guess) that Web access won't make a huge difference for those that want live sync. You still need to exit your realm and sync. Then the players need to refresh their web page. Not a heck of a lot different than the player view.

What the Web version MAY help with is printing. But given their IP-protection concerns, I don't image that they'll bend over backward making the printing from the web that convenient.

Personally, even if live-sync was available and worked flawlessly and automatically with little lag, I still doubt it would make any positive difference to my table, if any difference it would be negative. I don't wan't people all staring down at their own devices. It is a much better experience to have a second monitor to review maps and images. I don't really understand the point of sharing text in the player view, seems like it would just slow down the game, but other DMs can enlighten me.

Why do players need to see newly revealed content during play? You JUST TOLD them. I can see looking something up from several sessions ago, that's where RW really shows some value. But even then, at the table, I'd rather they just ask me, rather then fiddle around with the database on their laptop at the table.

Also, I don't consistently reveal on the fly. After the session, I'll go over the topics and articles and decide what to reveal or sometimes I need to edit or break snippets. I don't want to worry about this while running a game.

This is just my preference and opinion. I certainly support the idea of automatic live sync, but I wouldn't hold my breath for it.
 
Since we do play via VoIP mostly and use VTT only for combat sequences, live sync would be very helpfull.
 
I agree with MNBlockHead.

We all play differently, so live sync could be useful for some; just not important for me.
 
kbs666 said:
What does that even mean?

Do you mean integrating the map reveal with the VTT map? That would be a nightmare to code.
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Greebo said that he uses the VTT for combat sequences, so presumably already has the maps inside his VTT.

An integration with a VTT could allow the story elements (snippets) to be pushed to the players from within RW at the appropriate time (for those VTTs which would normally have stories embedded within their campaign details).

I don't know what level of integration is possible currently (e.g. that Syrinscape uses) though.
 
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