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--- In armybuilder@y..., "TAGARNO A/S - Niels Peter Gibe" <np@t...>
wrote:
> >You roll for the Marines, move the distance, and if you rolled
> > 6 (and there are no other enemies within 6") you rally. Then
> > you roll for pursuit or consolidate.
>
> I gotta check up on the subject in the rules, before I can say who
of us is right here.
>
> The way we play it, we roll for the fallback distance. Then the
opponent desiders if he wants to sweep - if so (and assuming the sweep
roll is higher), you remove the models that fell back (though not if
it is marines) and then replace the sweeping models. I realise this
might very well be a up-speeded way of playing, but maybe not quite by
the numbers...
> In short, the way we play it, we assume that the marines rally in
the end of the assault phase, not at the end of the move.
>
> In my eyes, our method seems fairer, as you might otherwise have a
situation, where a marine squad finishes its fall back and auto rally.
Next another CC is resolved (same phase so it is really simultanious
with the first CC) and the result of this CC is that enemy models
somehow (sweep, consolidate etc) ends up within 6" of the first marine
unit. Now it seems unfair, that they was able to rally...
> Likewise you can have a situation where the marines can't rally as
an enemy unit is within 6" - next this enemy unit moves away, more
that 6", so in this case the marines should be able to rally.
>
> If you check for rally in the end of the assault phase you have a
much clearer view. (IMHO)
>
> Niels Peter Gibe
I'm sorry if I gave you the opinion that I thought this was either
fair or clear. I'm merely stating the most popular interpretation
that I have heard and typical way I have seen it played.
It goes back to rules lawyering and clarity is not necessarily the
goal in those cases. BTW, I like your method, you're right, it is
more clear. I just don't think I could get any marine player here to
agree.
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wrote:
> >You roll for the Marines, move the distance, and if you rolled
> > 6 (and there are no other enemies within 6") you rally. Then
> > you roll for pursuit or consolidate.
>
> I gotta check up on the subject in the rules, before I can say who
of us is right here.
>
> The way we play it, we roll for the fallback distance. Then the
opponent desiders if he wants to sweep - if so (and assuming the sweep
roll is higher), you remove the models that fell back (though not if
it is marines) and then replace the sweeping models. I realise this
might very well be a up-speeded way of playing, but maybe not quite by
the numbers...
> In short, the way we play it, we assume that the marines rally in
the end of the assault phase, not at the end of the move.
>
> In my eyes, our method seems fairer, as you might otherwise have a
situation, where a marine squad finishes its fall back and auto rally.
Next another CC is resolved (same phase so it is really simultanious
with the first CC) and the result of this CC is that enemy models
somehow (sweep, consolidate etc) ends up within 6" of the first marine
unit. Now it seems unfair, that they was able to rally...
> Likewise you can have a situation where the marines can't rally as
an enemy unit is within 6" - next this enemy unit moves away, more
that 6", so in this case the marines should be able to rally.
>
> If you check for rally in the end of the assault phase you have a
much clearer view. (IMHO)
>
> Niels Peter Gibe
I'm sorry if I gave you the opinion that I thought this was either
fair or clear. I'm merely stating the most popular interpretation
that I have heard and typical way I have seen it played.
It goes back to rules lawyering and clarity is not necessarily the
goal in those cases. BTW, I like your method, you're right, it is
more clear. I just don't think I could get any marine player here to
agree.
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