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Show in Current Navigation - what does it do?

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MNBlockHead

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One of the minor enhancements in the new release has me confused:

The current topic shown within the content pane can now be centered upon within the navigation pane via the “Show in Current Navigation” choice on the topic Options menu. This option is tied to the <ctrl+=> hotkey.
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I was thinking that this would find where the current article is listed in the navigation pane on the right. But selecting this from the topic/article options menu or using the hot key don't appear to do anything.

I'm sure I'm misunderstanding what this is supposed to do. Could someone explain it to me? I hate not understanding features :confused:
 
I think the confusion here centers on terminology. The "navigation pane" is the leftmost pane that shows all the topics in your realm. The "transitions pane" is the rightmost one with all the links and whatnot.

Let's say you have hundreds of topics in your realm. That's a lot to wade through in the navigation pane on the left. What the new feature does is center the navigation pane on the topic you're currently viewing within the central "content pane". If you just clicked on the topic within the navigation pane to view it, nothing needs to be done. However, if you just followed a link from Fred to Walter, odds are that the navigation pane won't be centered on Walter.

Hope that helps! :)
 
This doesn't work for me.

I can open a topic, click a link and go to a new topic that I would have to scroll a ways to find in the navigation pane. Using CNTRL+= doesn't center on the newly displayed topic in the navigation pane.

I was thinking that some other program might also be using this combination and that might cause issues, but even when I select "Show in Current Navigation" from the Content Panes Options, it doesn't work for me.

This really doesn't affect my use of the software, but it may be a bug. I've submitted a bug report.
 
I have the same experience as MNBlockHead.

Apart from the problem with short cuts using non-alphanumeric signs and a non-english keyboard... (Now, where is that =-sign located... obviously not above the 0 where it should be...)
 
Oooh. Do I need a numeric keypad? The Lenovo x230 I'm using does not have a number keypad. Not even a soft-key one. This is one of my biggest complaints with this laptop. It is annoying not being able to easily enter unicode characters by their ALT+[number] shortcuts. I would think, however, that by how it is described in the release notes that it is the plain old standard "=" sign on. On my keyboard it is between the "-" and [Backspace] keys on the number row.

But CTRL+= does nothing in RealmWorks for me.
 
I don't think you need a numeric keypad. My 0 at the top row (above O and P) writes an = when shifted. And the position you mentions (and which I found after looking the layout of English keyboards up) does not do anything either.

The option in the drop down menu doesn't do anything for me either...

So, that hotkey probably unintentionally got killed off by either a new bug or a new feature - coding is so much fun :-)
 
Steps taken:

Settings for tests 1 and 2:
  • Show alternate names: CHECKED
  • Show prefix before name when available: CHECKED
  • Sort Topics: ALPHABETICALLY
  • Group similar types of topics: CHECKED
  • Empty group visibility: SHOW ALWAYS
  • Show containing topic hierarchy: CHECKED


TEST 1, based on Chemlak's suggestion (hierarchy collapsed):

  1. Launch RW
  2. Log into RW
  3. Open my realm
  4. Ensure that the World Almanac is selected
  5. Click on a topic near the top of the topics list in the navigation pane
  6. Click on a link in that topic that brings me to a topic that is much lower in the list in the navigation pane
  7. Use the shortcut CTRL+- , which collapses the containers but not the groups.
  8. Use the shortcut CTRL+=, which does nothing that I can discern.

Test 2 (test with hierarchy expanded):

Starting from where I left off in test one:

  1. Expand entire hierarchy, using the World Almanac Options (F6) menu item.
  2. Click on a topic near the top of the topics list in the navigation pane
  3. Click on a link in that topic that brings me to a topic that is much lower in the list in the navigation pane
  4. Use the shortcut CTRL+=, which does nothing that I can discern.

TEST 3

Settings for test 3:
  • Show alternate names: NOT CHECKED
  • Show prefix before name when available: NOT CHECKED
  • Sort Topics: ALPHABETICALLY
  • Group similar types of topics: NOT AVAILABLE
  • Empty group visibility: NOT CHECKED
  • Show containing topic hierarchy: NOT CHECKED

Because show containing topic hierarchy was not checked, expanding or collapsing the hierarchy was not applicable or available as an option. CTRL+= still does nothing.

B]Settings for test 4: [/B]
  • Show alternate names: NOT CHECKED
  • Show prefix before name when available: NOT CHECKED
  • Sort Topics: ALPHABETICALLY
  • Group similar types of topics: NOT AVAILABLE
  • Empty group visibility: NOT CHECKED
  • Show containing topic hierarchy: CHECKED

I re-ran tests 1 and 2 with the above settings for test 4. Still, CTRL+= does nothing.

At this point I stopped. If there is any other configuration I need for this feature to work, it really wouldn't be useful to me. If someone HAS used this shortcut and if it DID do something, please explain your settings and what it did. Either I'm being incredibly thick or there is something about my system that is interfering with this feature.

It is not a feature I particularly care that much for. I suppose it would be helpful, but I don't see my self needing it much. BUT it drives me crazy that it is not working for me while apparently it works for most other users.
 
Aspects of this bug have been fixed in the version that we just released. There are still a few cases where it doesn't work correctly, though. We'll be addressing those in a future update.
 
Not working again. It would be a nice feature to have working. I don't use it often but when I've been working on a set of topics or articles and close RW with a work in progress, when I open it again to work some more, the last article opened opens, but the navigation is fully expanded and scrolled to the top. Scrolling down and looking for the container I want to be working in so that I can view sibling topics is getting to be enough of an area of process friction that the CNTRL+= hot key would be nice. But neither the hot key nor the menu item are working for this again.
 
Well, it works for me - at least the menu option (version ....207).

And the short cut works as well - although I with my Danish keyboard need to press CTRL + +
It seems the short cuts are tied to the key codes and not the characters on the keys.

Perhaps you have a program, that has taken over some keys as global hot keys?

An option to set your own short cuts would be nice - somewhere down the road :-)
 
It seems to work for me as well in 207. If I scroll the Navigation Pane so that the current Topic/Article isn't showing and press Ctrl-=, the Navigation Pane is scrolled back to show the current Topic/Article. When I close Realm Works and reopen it, the Navigation Pane is scrolled to show the current Topic/Article in the frontmost tab (even if I'd scrolled it off the screen before closing RW).

It doesn't work if I've switched to a view that doesn't have the current Topic/Article, FWIW. I'm not sure if I'd expect it to do anything if the current Topic/Article isn't in the current Navigation, but perhaps RW could tell you why nothing happened with a "don't show this again" checkbox.
 
I don't know if it was the most recent update, but this feature is no longer working.

CNTRL+= or selecting "show in current navigation" from the wrench menu is doing nothing.

This is one of those features I do not use a great deal, but every now and then it would be very helpful.
 
Yeah, it's got to be something with my system.

I'll need to experiment with closing things until I can determine what is preventing this from working.

Though, I would think that any conflict would only affect the shortcut, not the menu item.
 
I just did a little experimentation with this on my Alienware laptop, which has the = as the primary character on a key to the left of the backspace (shift on that key is +) and the thing I found was that if I have the World or Story navigator up on the left and I have a Mechanics article open in a tab, click that tab and then press Ctrl-=, it does not work. I expected it to switch the left pane to the mechanics pane and then center, but it does not. The reverse (mechanics pane open, world/story article open) also responds the same way. As long as the article type you have open is the same as the navigator pane type, it works. Still a very handy feature though.
 
@kad: That's the intended behavior. We don't ever swap out what you're using viewing within the navigation pane. What if you've got a custom view in the navigation pane? Or a filtered set of topics? Should we discard that to show you the topic/article in a list that it actually appears within? That seems inappropriate to us, and it further introduces the complications of the user being able to instantly recognize how to get back to the previous view. So the behavior is limited to showing the content within the current navigation pane only if it exists there.

We intend to extend this mechanism further. There are times you'll want to use the "center on" mechanism with navigation views like plots and smart images. We don't have this in place yet, but imagine being able to "highlight" the map pin or plot point that references the topic/article currently being shown in the content pane. That could be extremely useful IMHO!

Hope this makes sense! :)
 
If this is expected then perhaps RW should show a dialog telling the user why it couldn't complete their request.

(An addition would be letting it succeed and making the Back button restore navigation with the previous context. There are already other places where RW frustrates me by changing the Navigation pane without being able to undo it.)
 
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rob said:
We intend to extend this mechanism further. There are times you'll want to use the "center on" mechanism with navigation views like plots and smart images. We don't have this in place yet, but imagine being able to "highlight" the map pin or plot point that references the topic/article currently being shown in the content pane. That could be extremely useful IMHO!
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Have the pin highlighted for the topic currently in view would be great!
 
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