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Shadowrun 5 announced

Here's an interesting question, and it probably can't be answered until more details are released for the new version: Will Lone Wolf only be supporting v5 or will they be supporting both versions? This is also assuming there are a LOT of rules changes between the two.
 
I would think it would be more likely that Hero Lab would only support SR4 as the announcement sounds like there will be some significant changes (and probably requiring a new license for SR5).

Is anyone else worried by the line "faster character creation"? That usually means removing choices. My guess (in the absence of any concrete details) is they are planning to use something similar to the PACKS system released as part of Runners Toolkit. I hope I'm wrong or that they give options in the main rulebook for PACKS and BP (and/or KarmaGen).
 
Here's an interesting question, and it probably can't be answered until more details are released for the new version: Will Lone Wolf only be supporting v5 or will they be supporting both versions? This is also assuming there are a LOT of rules changes between the two.

My impression is that the mechanics will be similar, but there will be tweaks and consolidation, like I think happened between SR2 and SR3. But I could be totally wrong.


I would also assume that Lone Wolf will continue to support SR4 in the same way they do 3.5, provided they don't lose their license. That may mean no new releases, but you'd still be able to get everything existing.
 
With the announcement about Shadowrun 5, we know everyone has a lot of questions about Hero Lab supporting it. We will be supporting Shadowrun 5, barring any unforeseen circumstances. We expect to be able to share more information in a few months, and will update everyone in our newsletter.
 
I hope Lone Wolf will support both 4e and 5e, at least for a while. There will be some transition in SRM play, so I would think that will need some equal-time support from Hero Lab.
 
I thought of another questions about SR5.

Will SR5 be supported by HL by the SR5 launch at GenCon in August? IE- Will I be able to use HL to make SR5 characters at GenCon?....
 
what level of rebuy will folks who have the 4e packages need to do? Main book free? main book plus equivalent bundles? just curious
 
No 4e Shadowrun at GenCon - 5e HL by GenCon?

Event calendar is out for GenCon. Not a single 4e session scheduled by Catalyst Labs - all the CMP games are 5th edition.

So.... Is Lone Wolf going to have a 5e HL module ready for purchase by GenCon?
 
Please note that the event list for GenCon does not include all SR events submitted. We are waiting on final approval for a load of events. Starting at Origins, we will be running SR5 at all conventions in which I have a direct part in scheduling. The full list of submitted events is on the Shadowrun Universe forums.

Thanks and look forward to seeing everyone there!
Ray Rigel
Lead RPGs Agent
Catalyst Demo Team
 
As John said earlier in this thread, it will be announced in the newsletters when we're ready to make an announcement.
 
Not sure if anyone has looked at the Shadowrun teasers that Catalyst has been putting out, but they are moving back to the original Priorities systems for creating characters. SR4 is the only edition that I can remember that had a Build Point system, with editions 1 through 3 having Priorities. I cannot verify this as I cannot find my second edition rulebook, but I suspect since it was still FASA back then, they were still using Priorities.

Not sure if it is any faster, but it will force you to make choices about your character. Check out the 3rd SR5 preview release if you want to know more about it.
 
Not sure if anyone has looked at the Shadowrun teasers that Catalyst has been putting out, but they are moving back to the original Priorities systems for creating characters. SR4 is the only edition that I can remember that had a Build Point system, with editions 1 through 3 having Priorities. I cannot verify this as I cannot find my second edition rulebook, but I suspect since it was still FASA back then, they were still using Priorities.

Not sure if it is any faster, but it will force you to make choices about your character. Check out the 3rd SR5 preview release if you want to know more about it.

Errrrr... I played 1st and 2nd edition back-in-the-day. I don't recall 1st ed creation entirely, but I am pretty sure it was the Priority system they are bringing back for 5th edition. And I am 99% certain that 2nd ed had the BP system as a "new option" way back then. I might have those two reversed in my old memory block.... I never played 3rd edition, so I don't what the creation system was like then.

I guess the main point is that the Priority System for creation is not new to SR.
 
Errrrr... I played 1st and 2nd edition back-in-the-day. I don't recall 1st ed creation entirely, but I am pretty sure it was the Priority system they are bringing back for 5th edition. And I am 99% certain that 2nd ed had the BP system as a "new option" way back then. I might have those two reversed in my old memory block.... I never played 3rd edition, so I don't what the creation system was like then.

I guess the main point is that the Priority System for creation is not new to SR.

3rd Edition had the priority system in the core book.
 
I'm reading through the PDF right now. So far my impression is that the priority system is pretty interesting and pretty crunchy. It would be worth an in depth analysis, as you have a reason now (maybe even a good one) to make race your highest priority but then pick human since you get a bonus you didn't used to get. I'm just reading the matrix rules now. I used to love deckers, but fourth edition made the rules too vague to work as written. I've heard this is better, and I hope so.
 
The priority system in 5 looks approximately equivalent the the one in 4th found in the runners companion, the major difference being that the system supports street level and prime runner level games and has even more variants in the game master chapter. For the most part, it's the same and would require a little modification from 4 to work into hero lab, and the limits are just formula calculations easily handled in hero lab's compiler. The rel changes to the game are really in the rules and how things work, like hacking. Commlinks no longer have millions of pieces of software to buy, the operating system is built into the link now and handled by the device rating. Not a huge change, but implementation could take a little time. The SR 4 Hero Lab already has should be modifiable to handle the changes.

This close to the convention (GenCon) I'm not sure if they've even started working on it though. There's a lot of convention prep to worry about.
 
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Having had a chance to read through the most the the 5th Ed PDF I can tell you the changes are pretty substantial. They have gone old school on initiative and Made serious changes in most other areas of the game. It is still very recognizable as Shadowrun but I would describe it as closer to 2nd & 3rd Ed SR then 4th honestly.

It will require a completely different program to handle. I will also say the for the most part I like what I see, they have put together an interesting system with some good choices players will have to make. I have not identified alot of you should be doing/using this bar none and your a moron/gimping your self if your not doing / using this. The only thing I will say falls into this category is Initiative enhancers but then SR has always had that from the word go. Faster is always BETTER in SR!
 
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