Search filter "NOT" not working as expected

[Acenoid]

Before raising a bug report, let us check if I made a mistake. Since views are limited I wanted to ensure that all topics for a adventure have the same "tag" attached to the topic. Luckily we have the bulk tagging.

Now as parent container I have several "permanent" tags provided, these topics should be in all campaigns / adventures , so they don't need to have the tag of each separate adventure.

I wanted to do the following:
1. Filter by view for the adventure
2. Add a search Add Story Tag "NOT" permanent
3. Bulk tag "Adventure #1"

Expectation is that the permanent topics would disappear from my selected view after step 2, but it is not happening always, making this feature unreliable.

This is how it looks after Step 1:
All topics below are part of the same view called "R1 S-Tec"

*Event List*
Topic: Plots {Permanent Ŧ}
Topic: Reputation {Permanent Ŧ}

Topic: Recap {Permanent Ŧ}
Contained Topic: Recap 2017.07.28 {R1 S-Tec Ŧ}
...


After Doing Step 2 it looks like this:
*Event List*
Topic: Recap {Permanent Ŧ}
Contained Topic: Recap 2017.07.28 {R1 S-Tec Ŧ}
...

Here is what I have selected in the search:
https://i.imgur.com/qv9mwie.png

Conclusion:
The "Recap" Topic should have disappeared in my opinion.


Any ideas?

 

[kbs666]

That doesn't make a lot of sense.

Is Permanent F the same as Permanent? You're filtering for NOT Storyermanent not NOT ?ermanent F

 

[Acenoid]

The f is some special character and means global tag and is set by the application to distinguish topic tags from snippet tags.

 

[kbs666]

You mean the crossbar T? It doesn't mean a global but does mean the second thing.

How are adding things to the view? Manually? just leave the stuff that has the Permanent tag out. I'm unclear how you can filter for an adventure where you don't have a tag set yet.

 

[Acenoid]

Yes.

I click on modify tags and add it there. If a Tag is related to a snipet it has also this blue icon next to a sniper doesn't it? I will double-click but iam actuall actually quite sure...

EDIT:
I doublechecked now:
As stated in the earlier posts the tags are "topic tags" and the doublecrossed T references for them.
Only mistake that was made: I wrote F instead of the special letter. I'll fix that above.

I still think the search does not work as expected?

 

[Acenoid]

How are adding things to the view? Manually? just leave the stuff that has the Permanent tag out. I'm unclear how you can filter for an adventure where you don't have a tag set yet.

I'm adding topics to the view manually.
I was trying to ensure that all topics in the current view - except the permanent ones - have the global adventure tag in them.

A workaround would be to add all adventure tags to a permanent tag instead (this is effectively the same), but I wasn't looking to find a workaround - that's always possible, Iam trying to understand how the search works and finding out if I use it correctly , how I can apply the "not" condition , in which order the search works and if we have a bug here. Currently I think it's a bug.

The order (in my opinion should be) 1. Apply view 2. Apply filters over the view (= search conditions). So if the view contains X,Y and Z and I create a search that says "NOT X" everything that has X should disappear from my current navigation pane.