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Replacing (Racial) Hit Dice with Class Levels

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pippin_nl

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Hi,

Is it possible to use a feat, template or an adjustment to the race to remove racial hit dice for each class level you add?

So suppose I have a 10 HD monster and I would add a level of rogue, I would like the end result to be a 9 HD monster with 1 level of rogue.

Would there be another way to grant all the class abilities from a class and also replace rHDSides (e.g. D6 for a wizard) to a monster?

Something that did not work at (final phase/10.000):

var hd as number
~ hd = hero.tagcount[Hero.HitDice]
hd = field[rHitDice].value

var cl1 as number
cl1 = field[xAllLev].value

field[tHitDice].value -= cl1 - hd
field[tCR].value -= cl1 - hd
 
For something like this you want VERY EARLY not late. At final timing everything has already been calculated.

Here is an adjustment script I have that removes Hit Dice First/100:
Code: 
~ If we're not enabled, get out now
doneif (field[pIsOn].value <> 1)

~set our focus to the hero's race
perform hero.findchild[BaseRace].setfocus
doneif (state.isfocus = 0)

~ Remove Race Hit Dice 
focus.field[rHitDice].value += field[pAdjust].value
~ Make sure we never go to Negative Hit Dice!
focus.field[rHitDice].value = maximum(focus.field[rHitDice].value,0)
Most of this you can use but you will want to change out the field[pAdjust].value that is already negative to count Classes instead. Though I know the Classes.? tag are placed early on a character I don't know if they are present at First/100 so you may have to up the timing a little.

Basically something like this:
Code: 
~ set our focus to the hero's race
perform hero.findchild[BaseRace].setfocus
doneif (state.isfocus = 0)

~ Remove Race Hit Dice equal to number of classes taken
focus.field[rHitDice].value -= hero.tagcount[Classes.?]
~ Make sure we never go to Negative Hit Dice!
focus.field[rHitDice].value = maximum(focus.field[rHitDice].value,0)

I am off to dinner with the family so don't have time to test the above but it should help point you in the right direction. :)
 
Thank you. I have not yet found a timing where both rHitDice and hero.tagcount[Classes.?] are active. Is it possible to use a counter if the right timing does not exist?
 
pippin_nl said:
Thank you. I have not yet found a timing where both rHitDice and hero.tagcount[Classes.?] are active. Is it possible to use a counter if the right timing does not exist?
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In that case you may as well use the first script example as it can be pasted right into an Adjustment. Then the adjustment has a counter built in which is field[pAdjust].value. Test Now and use. :)
 
Does the top script not add hit dice if you put in a positive value, it does in my case? I might also have found the reason I did not get it to work, the monster I was applying it too has two races and only one with rHitDice, but thanks as always!!!
 
pippin_nl said:
Does the top script not add hit dice if you put in a positive value, it does in my case? I might also have found the reason I did not get it to work, the monster I was applying it too has two races and only one with rHitDice, but thanks as always!!!
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Most likely it can add. What I did was set the adjustment to have a Max value of 0 and a Minimum value of -99 on the incrementor. Meaning only a negative values could be entered.

How can a hero have two races? As far as I am aware that is not possible as the Background Tab only allows the selection of a single race. So I don't understand your statement about a monster have two races...
 
ShadowChemosh said:
Most likely it can add. What I did was set the adjustment to have a Max value of 0 and a Minimum value of -99 on the incrementor. Meaning only a negative values could be entered.

How can a hero have two races? As far as I am aware that is not possible as the Background Tab only allows the selection of a single race. So I don't understand your statement about a monster have two races...
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Because I built a race rDemonX and bootstrapped that to all the various demon races I built; so rManeX has a bootstrap rDemonX; does that not count as two races? Would there have been a better way?
 
Having 2 races on the same hero is going to cause some serious problems.

I'd build a single race, and let it select the secondary race as a racial custom special (like an ethnicity).
 
Aaron said:
Having 2 races on the same hero is going to cause some serious problems.

I'd build a single race, and let it select the secondary race as a racial custom special (like an ethnicity).
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Yea exactly what Aaron said. This is the same as how a Tielfing can be from different types of Demons. You select Tiefling and then select the type as a "Racial Custom Ability".

Then have the Racial Custom Ability do any of the changes to the BaseRace for you.
 
Alternately, you could also use a configureable, in the case that you wanted to use racial custom specials for something else. I believe the Half-Demon template does something similar to what you're shooting for. The template adds a configurable which allows you to select a demon parentage that modifies your stats and whatnot
 
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