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Quick Dark Angels question

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Can a veteran sergeant in a Ravenwing army take the 'Stubborn' upgrade?
I.e., can you be in both the Ravenwing and Deathwing?


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> Can a veteran sergeant in a Ravenwing army take the 'Stubborn' upgrade?

Yes - *any* DA Vet Sgt can be 'stubborn' for 5pts (DA Codex, page 9, grey
box)


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> Can a veteran sergeant in a Ravenwing army take the 'Stubborn' upgrade?
> I.e., can you be in both the Ravenwing and Deathwing?

I don't see anything in C: DA that says that they can't, Colin. However, as
Stubborn says that they may not voluntarily fall back from close combat, I
would say no, as this specifically contradicts the function of the Ravenwing
and would lead them into situations similar (in concept) to the Intractible
rule, which doesn't apply to RW...

Other DA players, such as Jimi, may wish to expand or rebut this, however...


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> Yes - *any* DA Vet Sgt can be 'stubborn' for 5pts (DA Codex, page 9, grey
> box)

Oops... Looks like Jimi beat me to it...



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In a message dated 4/1/01 4:30:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
james.tubman@blueyonder.co.uk writes:

<< Yes - *any* DA Vet Sgt can be 'stubborn' for 5pts (DA Codex, page 9, grey
box) >>

If it uses the word "always", you may not always be able to <smirk>

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> If it uses the word "always", you may not always be able to <smirk>

Eh??


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On 1 Apr 2001, at 19:23, Christopher Beilby wrote:

>
>
> > Can a veteran sergeant in a Ravenwing army take the 'Stubborn'
> > upgrade? I.e., can you be in both the Ravenwing and Deathwing?
>
> I don't see anything in C: DA that says that they can't, Colin.
> However, as Stubborn says that they may not voluntarily fall back from
> close combat, I would say no, as this specifically contradicts the
> function of the Ravenwing and would lead them into situations similar
> (in concept) to the Intractible rule, which doesn't apply to RW...
>
> Other DA players, such as Jimi, may wish to expand or rebut this,
> however...
>

Well, the rules say yes, logic and fluff say no.

But the rules are what counts.

One day they will make the rules fit the fluff (or rewrite the fluff
to fit the rules!).


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister" <demandred@skrill.org>
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 7:12 PM
Subject: [AB] Quick Dark Angels question


> Can a veteran sergeant in a Ravenwing army take the 'Stubborn' upgrade?
> I.e., can you be in both the Ravenwing and Deathwing?
>
>
A strict reading of the codex p9.
"Some Space Marine Squads include an option for being led by a veteran
Sergeant." (Ravenwing squads have this option).

"Important Note: Dark Angels Veteran Sergeants may have been inducted into
the Deathwing and can be *stubborn* at an additional cost of +5 points."



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