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NPC vs. PC -- Opinions Solicited

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Daeorian

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I don't quite fully grasp the difference between how the two are handled in Hero Lab.

In my campaign setting, The World of Daeoria, I have certain NPCs that play a vital role as major antagonists to the party, and a few that are an ongoing source of aid and information. These special NPCs I have fleshed out as fully fledged PCs. (I have on occasion even played these NPCs myself as a player character when sitting in as a player in someone else's campaign, just to give myself a chance to immerse myself into the character's mind, so to speak.)

I have been hesitant to use the Hero Lab "Type: Non-Player Character", mostly because I didn't want to spend a lot of time on one of the special NPCs only to find that there's some limitation I didn't know about, then have to re-do the whole thing again as a "Type: Hero (PC)".

A throw-away NPC is one I think I might use the "Type: Non-Player Character" for, but I think I want to continue to flesh out major NPCs as "Type: Hero (PC)".

Does anyone have any thoughts or opinions on this that they'd care to share?

Thanks in advance.
 
The only differences in Hero Lab that are created by the PC/NPC selector are that PCs have a Journal tab, so they can record the experience they gain, NPCs have an NPC tab that can be used to enter Ecology, Tactics, etc. entries that will be added to the statblock (and the Description item, which is added to the statblock as italicized text at the top).

While PCs select their starting level on the configure hero form, and Hero Lab will make sure that you take as many levels as you told it you were going to take, NPCs can add as many or as few levels as you like without HL complaining (and without having to go back to the configure hero form to change it if you change your mind on how many levels the NPC needs in order to be a threat to your PCs).

The Starting cash for a PC defaults to 150gp (we figured the Pathfinder Society's starting amount would be a reasonable default in general), the starting cash for an NPC defaults to 0gp.

When viewing the total value of the character's gear along the top, that total will be compared to a different table for PCs and for NPCs.

You can switch back-and-forth between PC and NPC as much as you want.
 
Mathias said:
[...] You can switch back-and-forth between PC and NPC as much as you want.
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[Donning German soldier's helmet and wire-framed glasses a la Artie Johnson] In-ter-est-ing. Veeery interesting. I think I'll create a scratch NPC just to play around with this.
 
I amcreating all the NPCs for the Kingmaker path and use the NPC option all the time. it has some better options then PC, like you can adjust the size, or add a template, such as zonbie on to it at any point.

i can assign class levels if i wish as well. i find the NPC function very useful.

the one thing that i would like to see for an NPC is a text area for treasure. I have been using the personl tab for it for now, but an other NPC option for treasure would be good.
 
Excuse me, chiefweasel, how do the PC options for adjustments and templates vary from the NPC options for those things? Are you seeing any differences? There are not supposed to be any.

There is a text area for treasure - go to the NPC tab, and select "Ecology - Treasure"
 
When you find a race that allows you to add additional HD, try switching it to a PC character - whether or not you can add additional HD is controlled by the race, not the PC/NPC setting.
 
Mathias said:
Excuse me, chiefweasel, how do the PC options for adjustments and templates vary from the NPC options for those things? Are you seeing any differences? There are not supposed to be any.

There is a text area for treasure - go to the NPC tab, and select "Ecology - Treasure"
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I used to be able to add Size Adjustments and Additional HD to my PC but not anymore. In fact my Size Adjustment is in red.

If I switch from PC to NPC it accepts the Size Adjustment but I loose my Journal notes ;-)

I wonder why that was changed? I can't swap from PC to NPC, I loose my Journal notes.

I guess I can manually add in adjustments(ie Size, Str, Dex, Con adjustments) but was so much easier before, just clicked on Size Adjustment and did the trick.
 
Leave it a PC, but accept that size adjustments due to increased racial HD are not something you're normally allowed to add to a PC, so it's in red because that's an error. You have your GM's permission to do this, so you can ignore the error.
 
Mathias said:
Leave it a PC, but accept that size adjustments due to increased racial HD are not something you're normally allowed to add to a PC, so it's in red because that's an error. You have your GM's permission to do this, so you can ignore the error.
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Unfortunately when in PC mode instead of NPC it takes off the Size Adjustments(ie reach, Str, Dex etc), I'll have to do the adjustments manually under Personal/Permanent Adjustments, game starts in a few minutes ;-)

Nha, will flip from NPC to PC mode...Just weird back in December this was working fine for me.
 
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