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Mystery Untyped Bonus

tcharleschapman

Well-known member
Hi Everyone,

I've built a Level 9 Sea Reaver Barbarian in Hero Lab. I've given this character the following two feats:

Sea Legs
Athletic

These two feats give an untyped bonus to the following skills:

Acrobatic: +2
Climb: +4
Swim: +4

However, when I hover over the skills, Hero Lab tells me there is an additional +2 to each of those and I can not figure out where they are coming from! Is there a way to find where each of these bonuses originates from?

I've tried removing all feats, then all rage powers, then all class levels. No matter what that untyped bonus does not go away.

Thanks!
 
I would advise posting "everything" about your character. The easiest is to either attach your .por file to a post or copy/paste the statblock for your character. It could be coming from anywhere including equipment or race or traits or etc.....
 
The sea reaver has an activated ability which adds to several different skills. Did you perhaps turn that on and then forget to turn it off when leaving aquatic terrain?
 
Athletic also doubles its bonus once you hit 10 ranks in the target skills.

But as ShadowChemosh says, without the full character I am just shooting in the dark.
 
@Aaron: As you will see in the .por file, the character is only level 9 so no big bonus from skill points, and he only has 6 ranks in each, except acrobatics. Also, I don't know what the file will show, but I tested the character with "Savage Sailor" on and off.

Here is the file.
 

Attachments

So first have to laugh as your character is named the same as one of my cats! :D :eek:

As to the issue I can't explain why its happening but I know how to fix it. Remove the Archetype "Sea Reaver" and then add it back. I can't yet explain why this happening but that will fix it... :(
 
It looks like two different copies of the Savage Sailor special are activated, and both are adding to the associated skills.

What needs to be happening is there needs to be a stop if the activated special is not the first copy of it's kind. I have this fixed for the next release.
 
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