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Limit to the number of files in a Realm?

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Daelda

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Is there a limit to the number of files (pictures/PDFs/etc) that can be in a single Realm? Lately I have been getting errors when I try to add PDFs or jpgs to my Realm. However, I have found that if I delete a jpg, I can then add in a new jpg.

I was trying to reduce the size of some of my jpgs as I was having crashing problems on my laptop and realized that some of my jpgs had not been optimized (reduced in size) like I should have done - which is why I was trying to put in new ones. In addition, I got some new pdfs released by the publisher and wanted to add them to Realm Works, but I keep getting "An error has occurred" when I try to add them. I know there is a file size limit - but these don't exceed that.
 
I've got quite a few maps and they are BIG. Most maps are PNG. Not a huge number of other graphics and no PDFs. No errors on my side with over 1100 topics.

The only place I get lag is on large topics that have numerous links. A really bad one for me is a listing of NPCs for Bard's Gate as it links to NPCs as well as primary locations. Another that takes some time to load is a maximum sized map with pins for each town, land feature, road, POI.
 
My biggest realm is sitting around a couple of thousand topics, with around half a gigabyte of images and .por files imported, and I've not seen any issue yet...
 
Is it possible that you're running out of RAM? I recall something about RW having to uncompress files such as jpegs to work with them.
 
I managed to crash Realm Works after attaching a near-max-size smart image. It's worked fine ever since - on that computer. I've finally tried opening it on one of my laptops, and it crashed the program with an out of memory error. There's definitely a limit on hoe much can be "in use" at a time - but it's as much system-dependent as anything else.
 
I'm not trying to open any files - just add them as a snippet. I can create the snippet, but is giving me errors when I try to add the file. My computer has 8GB of RAM, so I would hope I'm not running out of RAM....

My Master.Realm is sitting at 2.8 GB in size. The files I was recently trying to add ranged in size from 255k to 14.8MB.
 
I've recently gone through most of my images and reduced their size because I have crashed Realm Works several times due to image size. So now all of my images should be much smaller than they used to be - which is what I was doing when it wouldn't accept the 255k file - I was replacing a 1.8MB picture with a 255k picture - the same image, just I had forgotten to optimize it, so I was fixing that.
 
Daelda said:
I've recently gone through most of my images and reduced their size because I have crashed Realm Works several times due to image size. So now all of my images should be much smaller than they used to be - which is what I was doing when it wouldn't accept the 255k file - I was replacing a 1.8MB picture with a 255k picture - the same image, just I had forgotten to optimize it, so I was fixing that.
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Are you at the latest build? I seem to remember there was some earlier issues about replacing a smart image...
 
Daelda, hopefully by now you've filed a bug report using the online form, as the developers are the ones who can help you figure out what's going wrong.

But for what it's worth, here's a couple of notes:

Daelda said:
In addition, I got some new pdfs released by the publisher and wanted to add them to Realm Works, but I keep getting "An error has occurred" when I try to add them. I know there is a file size limit - but these don't exceed that.
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Are you storing sourcebooks in your Realm Works database? I would recommend not doing that. It bloats up your database for no real good reason. If you need a way to sync those sorts of files between machines, use a file-oriented service like Dropbox. (I just copy the files between my file server and a flash drive and/or my tablet's SD card. No service needed.)

Daelda said:
... My computer has 8GB of RAM, so I would hope I'm not running out of RAM....
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Realm Works is a 32-bit application, so it'll only use 2 GB of RAM.

Edit: See how long it takes me to write things sometimes? A dev showed up! :)
 
I've encountered this with other 32-bit programs. Once the commit memory size gets to about 1.7-1.8 GB the program will crash. You can try checking it by doing the following:
  • Start Task Manager by right clicking your task bar
  • Click the Processes tab
  • Click the column for Memory so it sorts it with the highest memory usage at the top
  • Load up RealmWorks and try to repeat the process that is causing your issue
  • Watch the memory as it increases to around 1.7-1.8 GB for the RealmWorks process

It will at least let you know if you are hitting the limit.
 
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Update: For whatever reason, the program "fixed" itself and is now working fine. I wanted to wait a while to make sure it wasn't just a fluke. Weird that it did that for a while and then stopped. Dunno what changed.

As to storing Sourcebooks - I run a Harn game and I want to share many things with my players (as they are unfamiliar with Harn). I have attempted to use Google Drive and other solutions and been met with...less than enthusiasm (I think that, of my 10 players between my two weekly games, I got perhaps 3 people that ever used it). However, once I got them the Player Edition of Realm Works, even my most reluctant Player has been fairly enthusiastic about using Realm Works.

I still keep my larger files off of Realm Works (for many reasons, including the file size limitations). But even doing that, I have a lot of files (maps, location information, Guild details, etc) that I keep on Realm Works.
 
Daelda said:
Update: For whatever reason, the program "fixed" itself and is now working fine. I wanted to wait a while to make sure it wasn't just a fluke. Weird that it did that for a while and then stopped. Dunno what changed.
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Memory allocation stuff can be sensitive to what else you have running on the machine. If you had other intensive apps open, you might not have had 2 gig to allocate...
 
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