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Hover Pop-Up and Scroll Bar

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Kendall-DM

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This is a neat idea, but I'm at a loss on how the hover notes with a scroll bar is actually able to scroll? I can click to get the hover pop-up to remain, but as soon as I try to click on the scroll bar, it disappears. Is this a new feature? It is extremely frustrating and is a bug in either case. Thanks!
 
Yeah, the only way I have found that it scrolls is with a mouse wheel. If you are using a touch pad or touch screen you will not be able to scroll down. I ran into this problem last night during a game when a player was using his laptop and uses just the touch pad and no mouse.
 
If you have a touchpad/mousepad under the keyboard (as most do) you can probably enable the right-edge of the touchpad to act as a scrollbar, if no there may be something in your "mouse" settings for your touchscreen to emulate a scrollwheel
 
On my laptop trackpad I can use two fingers to scroll, and I just checked and it does work on the Hero Lab pop-ups.
 
On my Lenovo Yoga 900, I can make it work with the touchPAD, but not with the touchscreen in tablet configuration. Exhausted all web searches to find a Windows 10 fix, but could not find one that was comprehensible. Seems to me that this could easily be solved with a software fix so that one can grab the scroll bar in the Hot Zone window, but touching the scroll bar just closes the window.
 
The scrollbar on info windows isn't something you can "grab", it's just there as a visual representation of how far through the text you've scrolled. Rather than trying to grab the bar, is there a scroll "gesture" you can make on the screen? For example, dragging with two fingers, rather than just one.
 
Colen said:
The scrollbar on info windows isn't something you can "grab", it's just there as a visual representation of how far through the text you've scrolled. Rather than trying to grab the bar, is there a scroll "gesture" you can make on the screen? For example, dragging with two fingers, rather than just one.
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There is but the pop-up isn't persistent so goes away if you do the gesture... :(

If it displayed as a dialog it would be better for touch screen users...
 
That's weird - I would have assumed that Windows would send us a standard "scroll event" when you do the two-finger drag, but I guess not. :( I'll put this on our to-do list to look into.
 
Colen said:
That's weird - I would have assumed that Windows would send us a standard "scroll event" when you do the two-finger drag, but I guess not. :( I'll put this on our to-do list to look into.
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My savior!

Not that it was a big deal, but when I started using my Surface with HL, I really liked the idea of a touch interface, as the pen allows for very precise work. However I quickly purchased an ARC mouse (which may not be the best mouse ever, is certainly the most usable portable mouse ever) and now its a combo of touch and mouse work.
 
Colen said:
That's weird - I would have assumed that Windows would send us a standard "scroll event" when you do the two-finger drag, but I guess not. :( I'll put this on our to-do list to look into.
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Well, to be clear, it probably does, however since this is an "onHover" event, on a touch screen you really don't have a mouse "hover" so a touch event triggers the "onHover" event but any other gesture is akin to moving the mouse away, killing the "onhover" event.


Maybe add a right-click event (should be a long press on touch screen) that opens the text in a modal dialog with scroll window. This would also let us highlight and copy the text if needed (on touch or non-touch screens) as a bonus.

Hover tool tips are nice but some of these tool tips are long and have a lot of info to read and deserve something a little more than a tool tip pop-up.

FYI: While you look at this, you could you look into testing for virtual keyboards in text boxes because it's a PITA to constantly click the damage box, click keyboard icon in windows, then press number pad, then enter damage, return... It's not automatic if you don't have a physical keyboard attached (but I know in Java you can test for it and assume you can as well?). Bonus points if you can just pop up a number keypad where needed. :)

PS if you need a beta tester for Windows + touch events let me know. :)
 
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