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Hero Lab crashes while adding race

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FaeruN

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Hey people, I don't know if I have to post this on here but, whatever...

The problem is that I've just created almost 6 races and now I wanna check if they work, the editor compiles but when I try to add a race, hero lab crashes and closes... I've readed around there that I someone deleted his temp folder files, but I cannot find them... anyone knows where it is supposed to be? or any other way to fix the crashing problem
 
Is it a specific race or any of the 6 races or any race at all?

If you can narrow it down to just one race then you can maybe figure out what strange thing your doing on that race that is causing the issue. Back many versions you could have bootstraps that bootstrap themselves but I am pretty sure HL checks for that now.

So you could start by removing one bootstrap or eval script at at time until you can find the one that HL is not liking.

That would be my advice anyways.
 
it is a crash to desktop, as soon as I click to load all the races, it freezes and crashes...

For those races I didn't use any eval script, but for one of them I had to create a racial special ability and a new spell
 
"...click to load all the races..." Do you mean when you click the "Choose Race" option on the Background tab? Does it finish bringing up the list before it crashes?
 
(sorry if I don't speak a proper english xD) yeah that's what I mean, and it doesn't finish bringing up the list
 
Can you find all the .user files you've created, and temporarily move them out of the folder they're in, then within Hero Lab, use the "Quick Reload Data Files" option within the Develop menu (you may need to enable everything on the develop menu by checking the first item on it).

Then, try adding a race - does it work?

If so, put your .user files back into their original folder one at a time, quick reloading HL each time.

What I'm trying to accomplish here is that first, I want to make sure something's not damaged about your HL install by making sure a clean copy still works, then we'll work on narrowing things down to exactly what's causing this error.

Once you've narrowed it down to a specific file, my email address is my user name here, @wolflair.com. I'd appreciate it if you could send me that file, and I'll try to figure out exactly what's causing the problem.
 
I've created only one user file (I will send it to you)

I've tried checking deleting races (and obviusly saving them somewhere else before) and when I reached the 4th race I've got the problem, but I didn't prove yet with the 5th and 6th race, and I don't remember if I checked the 3rd race or I've deleted before doing it...

Mathias I am sending you the .user right now, thank you, so you can check it is me, my email is fezero1@hotmail.com
 
In the description that's presented in HL, there's an internal limit (I think it's 5000 characters) as to how much text can be presented. I think something's happening with the very long description texts you've copied for your races - either the length of it is breaking something, or the 5000 character limit happens to hit at a bad place for at least one of those races.

By taking the file you sent me, and deleting all the description text for each race past the History section, I got it to load properly.
 
Mathias said:
In the description that's presented in HL, there's an internal limit (I think it's 5000 characters) as to how much text can be presented. I think something's happening with the very long description texts you've copied for your races - either the length of it is breaking something, or the 5000 character limit happens to hit at a bad place for at least one of those races.

By taking the file you sent me, and deleting all the description text for each race past the History section, I got it to load properly.
Click to expand...

got it, then I know which race does have the problem, I will have to shorten the description, thank you Mathias :)
 
Could you tell me which race(s) you have to edit to get it working, and how much to delete from their text? That way, I can send your file to Colen and tell him exactly where the problems are, and hopefully in the 3.9c or 3.9d update of HL itself, we can make it safe to add that much text, even if it won't all be displayed.
 
I have cleaned the whole HISTORY on gold and shield dwarves and it started working, so those 2 have the problem of too long descriptions, but still I had readed the others descriptions and there is some missing text on each one, on gray dwarves for example, I get on the middle of HISTORY and on urdunnirs I get in the middle of the RELATIONS, so I guess I will short up a lot this things until and if you do that upgrade, so by the moment I've counted that hero lab's race tab holds a maximum of approximately 25 lines (on the editor) of information for display, probably on those lines must get filled the 5000 characters you said, and it must hold some more (maybe 10000) and then it crashes, that's my theory about it, so thanks again Mathias
 
Colen was able to fix this, so in the next update of Hero Lab (of the program, not just the Pathfinder files), you'll be able to add that much text and it won't crash (it still may not display it all, though).
 
Right. Hero Lab currently has a limitation where only ~5000 characters can be displayed in a number of places - I've fixed the crash issues, but the display limitation remains. This is something on our list of things to fix, but I'm afraid it likely won't be for a while. :(

In general, that much text is too much for Hero Lab anyway - it won't fit in a lot of places, so summarising things may be in order instead.
 
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