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Hero Lab and Starfinder

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will9k

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I do not post to forums very often, but I have been requested by my gaming group to make this post as the person who first introduced our group to Hero Lab.

Our group is a mostly stable gaming group with 5 or 6 players who get together almost every Saturday and play for the day. For the most part we use Hero Lab for character generation and updating, with a VTT to handle mapping.

Everyone has a copy of Hero Lab and adds updates to it as needed. GMs have larger needs of course, but even the players have a lot of things for Hero Lab.

We play Pathfinder, lots and lots of Pathfinder. Then a few weeks ago I started to look at the new Starfinder. Interesting concept and we already have a lot of knowledge about the game system.

Then I tried to buy Starfinder for Hero Lab, and crashed into the recent split between Hero Lab Online and Hero Lab (classic?). The group talked about it for a few hours, and the conclusion was a unanimous refusal to move to HLO.

Everyone balked hard at ANOTHER monthly fee, even knowing that it's not expensive. We have played for more than 5 years now and expect to play for many more years. 5 years of ownership on 6 subscriptions to HLO made everyone grumble about the cost.

We hope to see Starfinder added to HLC someday, but until then we will either use other products to make characters or just not play any Starfinder.

WLP, Monterey Gaming Group.
 
The reason LW "said" they "couldn't do" Starfinder for HLC was because of the starships. Still not seeing any starships. What I need HL to do for me is character & NPC creation and tracking. Which HLC handles just fine. I've tested the "Production" version of HLO and there's nothing there that HLC couldn't do. It should still be in beta until they've added the promised functionality.
 
It's perfectly functional for players, they were clear through the whole process that they were going to push out the functionality to let players get in and start playing the game and then build it up from there. I'd wager there is plenty happening in the background preparing the back-end for functionality that we will look back on a few years from now and wonder how we ever survived without it.
 
I just want some character creation for Starfinder in HLC. I don't use the program at the table the vast majority of the time. Alas, Lone Wolf has decided that I am a relic of the past that they can't monetize, and so I just use Hero Lab a lot less than I once did. C'est la Vie.
 
Has anyone in the community done a data set for HLC, or is that off limits as it would be competing directly with HLO?
 
There is currently no Starfinder data set for Classic. There is a "Starfinder GM Pack" in the Pathfinder Community Files. It is not a complete conversion - It has GM components for turning Monsters into Starfinder monsters /NPCs.
 
I have the Starfinder GM bit. I’m curious as to why someone hasn’t created a data set for clasic yet. My question stands. Is it because it’s off limits? Do people just feel awkward making it because of HLO? Are the people who would make it just using HLO? Has no one gotten around to doing it yet? I’m just currious, not trying to ruffle feathers or anything.
 
Monkey God said:
I have the Starfinder GM bit. I’m curious as to why someone hasn’t created a data set for clasic yet. My question stands. Is it because it’s off limits? Do people just feel awkward making it because of HLO? Are the people who would make it just using HLO? Has no one gotten around to doing it yet? I’m just currious, not trying to ruffle feathers or anything.
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It is mostly because it is a MASSIVE amount of work to implement all the required rules for a new game.
 
Your questions are fair. In my opinion, here's a couple of reasons:
1. It's generally been the community's view not to "duplicate" data sets that LW have produced.
2. Most of the people who have the skill to work on a Starfinder data set, haven't got the time to do so. (Or may not play Starfinder)
3. From what I understand as to how Starfinder PC's are made, doing an conversion from say Pathfinder would not be straightforward, and might even not be possible.
 
Dami said:
3. From what I understand as to how Starfinder PC's are made, doing an conversion from say Pathfinder would not be straightforward, and might even not be possible.
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It wouldn't be possible to convert Pathfinder since users aren't able to access all the logic and rules on which Pathfinder is built.
 
Thanks for the information. I was taking a look at it and thought it might be possible with some work around, fudgery, and adjustments. I can understand the time it would take putting people off. I was curious, because I was going to start a Starfinder campaign with my group.

I took me years to get the whole group to invest in Hero Lab. Now we never game without it. I looked into HLO and played around with the demo, but found it less flexible and didn't care for the UI. Perhaps it my disappointment speaking, and I will revisit it again at some other time. Until then, I guess we go old school and break out the paper and pens.
 
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