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Half-races alternate racial traits bug

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WalterGM

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Howdy! I booted up HL this morning to make a half-orc something-or-other and noticed this.

On the Background tab, under Add Alternate Racial Traits, it is allowing me to select both half-orc and human racial traits. For example, I can have my half-orc pick up Dual Talent, and snag another +2 to two more attributes - giving him +2 to three attributes total. All while still being, apparently, PFS legal.

Clearly, this is bonkers.

I think it might be because of a misunderstanding of this recent FAQ ruling this recent FAQ ruling, and Paizo's poor word choice when differentiating between traits, race traits, and racial traits.

My understanding:
Traits - those almost feat things you can pick to customize your character
Race traits - traits which are restricted to members of that race (or half-members that now qualify, thanks to the FAQ)
Racial traits - abilities of your race, like darkvision, which the FAQ does not allow half-members of to qualify for.

I didn't see this mentioned elsewhere, so apologies if it's a redundant thread!
 
Just an FYI but for PFS you are correct that the ARTs can't be used. From PFS resource page: Note: Alternate racial traits, racial archetypes, racial evolutions, racial feats, and racial spells are only available for characters of the associated race. Racial equipment and magic items can be purchased and used by any race as long as the specific item permits it (for example, only halflings can purchase and use solidsmoke pipeweed).
 
That FYI is incorrect

As of September 2013, this edit was made to the FAQ:

Half-Elf or Half-Orc: Can a character of either of these races select human racial archetypes (such as from Advanced Race Guide?

Yes. Half-elves and half-orcs may select racial favored class options, archetypes, traits, and so on, as if they were a full member of both races (a half-elf can select elf and human rules elements, a half-orc can select human and orc rules elements).

Edit 9/26/13: This is a reversal of an earlier ruling. This resolves a discrepancy between this FAQ and two Advanced Player's Guide FAQs.

Half-elves can select all elf and human rules elements and a half orc can select human and orc rule elements. That includes Alternate Racial Traits.
 
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