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Getting started, some warmup questions...

nodice

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Hi guys,

Starting to get into RW, and it feels like a lot of work, but I have convinced myself it will be worth it, so I'm sticking with it. I have watched this tutorial videos series, informative, but basic. So now, ofc, I have many questions. I apologise in advance if these ;

1) Firstly, Importing Question. I am an outside-in type of DM. I am currently running a tabletop campaign, and went to input the city I'm using into the world almanac, but found that the deities worshiped in said city aren't in the deity list. In fact, there wasn't a deity list at all from memory. So my first task was to create a new tag category, and enter every single deity in my campaign setting (homebrew campaign setting using extended D&D 3.5 content). But of course, just a tag is not enough, there will also need to be an actual topic in some list detailing domains(yay, another tag list to create) favored weapons, alignments etc. Then I'll have to enter every single race present in the campaign setting, again, in both the tag list, and creating an actual topic, annnnd then there's feats, skills, classes, and prestige classes. Thats all before I even get to the world itself. Is there a way to import say, a list of all DnD 3.5 races, classes, feats, skills, prestige classes, deities, domains etc into RW? I need topics and tags for all of them and it will take me over a month just to complete that task if I can't import them all. (If not, will I likely be able to make money selling a consolidated list of all of this in the marketplace as some kind of add-on pack for people's campaigns?)

2) Searching content. I am creating kingdoms, provinces, cities, districts for my world, all contained within each other in that order. In the world almanac, it makes it all fairly well organised by location. On a base level, thats fine, thats how they will be used for the most part.
But lets say I want to see a list of which Characters I have created so far that worship a certain god, or which cities have training options for a particular prestige class, whats the easiest way to filter these things by something other than their hierarchy? What if I want to do this search only within a particular kingdom or province etc? Can the players do this for only stuff that they've had revealed to them?

3) World Almanac vs Story Almanac.
I don't quite understand the difference between these two. I have been just creating my world in World Almanac, and was thinking I could copy some elements to the story almanac when the time comes, just to streamline currently used content, but is this the main/only use for the story almanac?

4) Revealing information in snippets.
It seems that you can only reveal snippets of a topic that has itself been revealed.
A mysterious stranger, an unidentified weapon, an unfamiliar monster. For all of these situations I would have preferred to reveal some snippets about the topic without revealing the name. Is creating a separate "name" field in each topic and then giving everything some very generic title the only way to keep its name a mystery whilst revealing other snippets about it? It seems very clunky.



Thats probably enough to get me started, thanks for reading guys, and thanks even more if you can help. I'm also interested in any more detailed or in-depth tutorials if anyone can point them out.
 
Hi! :)

I'm very new to RW myself but I can help you out with two questions:

3) Story vs World: I keep NPC's, places, events, items etc in Story Almanac.. Once they become less important I put them in World Almanac.. I think it's just the same database, but this way you can easily look up stuff during play without going through potentially hundreds of items..

4) You can give any item an alias.. You choose which names to reveal.. So name the item/npc/whatever, then add an alias (use the tool button in the profile) and hide the real name.. :)

Good luck, Nodice! And have fun with RW! I'm having a great time toying around with it..
 
1) The only import option at this time is copy/paste. Base rulesets will likely be available from the Market which I'm hoping is about 2-4 months out. If you put a ruleset up for sale, that may not be allowed but I'll let you worry about copyright issues.

2) Tags. I use a Regional Scope tag which identifies a locale or area. Like Bard's Gate and Environs or The Dragon Hills. You can create a Religion tag. I place all NPC's in Cast Lists (unless they really are one-off's or very specifically tied to a location in which case they may be contained in a room or a region or whatever).

3) Story and World are going to have some tuning done. Not sure the time frame. My read of the changes are that multiple Story options will become available so you could set things up for different groups, different adventures, different views.... At that time, World will contain everything. Rob will jump in if my crystal ball is dirty....
 
1) Firstly, Importing Question. ... Is there a way to import say, a list of all DnD 3.5 races, classes, feats, skills, prestige classes, deities, domains etc into RW?
Your next question answers this: the Content Market is the way to share this sort of content.

(If not, will I likely be able to make money selling a consolidated list of all of this in the marketplace as some kind of add-on pack for people's campaigns?)
My guess is probably not for the OGL content included in various D&D 3.5 books. Either LWD or the community at large is likely to create a free version of that material.

It's definitely not for the non-OGL content included in various D&D 3.5 books, as sharing that without permission would be a copyright violation.

For items you've created, though, that is yours alone to try to sell.


2) Searching content. ... But lets say I want to see a list of which Characters I have created so far that worship a certain god, or which cities have training options for a particular prestige class, whats the easiest way to filter these things by something other than their hierarchy?
Currently Realm Works lets you filter by text or Tags in the Topic/Article. You do that by clicking on the magnifying glass icon in the tab of the Navigation Pane.

What if I want to do this search only within a particular kingdom or province etc?
It depends on how things are related. Searches still show the hierarchy, so you can see where the results fall. If you know the kingdom/province/etc. is mentioned you can add the name to your search filter.


Can the players do this for only stuff that they've had revealed to them?
Players can only see what's been revealed to them, so yes.


3) World Almanac vs Story Almanac.
Currently the intent is that the World Almanac holds background information and things you aren't currently using, while the Story Almanac holds things you are actively using. You don't copy items to the other almanac, you assign them to one or the other.

In the future (going from what's in the survey) they intend to change this so the World Almanac always shows everything.


4) Revealing information in snippets. ... Is creating a separate "name" field in each topic and then giving everything some very generic title the only way to keep its name a mystery whilst revealing other snippets about it? It seems very clunky.
At present, yes. The suggestions forum has requests to change this.
 
Thankyou all very much for the replies!


1)About the OGL content in the marketplace, I can understand the copyright issues, however, the amount of time required just to input the base rule system is staggering. Is LWD likely to do some of this legwork for some standard systems or are there community members already compiling certain systems ready to be shared when the market is released? Ultimately though, in order for the marketplace itself to be well seeded, an import function would be extremely useful!

2)
2) Tags. I use a Regional Scope tag which identifies a locale or area. Like Bard's Gate and Environs or The Dragon Hills. You can create a Religion tag. I place all NPC's in Cast Lists (unless they really are one-off's or very specifically tied to a location in which case they may be contained in a room or a region or whatever).
Currently Realm Works lets you filter by text or Tags in the Topic/Article. You do that by clicking on the magnifying glass icon in the tab of the Navigation Pane.
Thanks guys, this is the one question I was able to answer for myself by reading the manual after posting this question there.

Out of curiosity, and realising that its a matter of preference rather than correctness, how do you arrange your cast lists? I have decided to go with a cast list for every city, province, kingdom, region, and continent. Each character to be stored in the smallest scale area that he calls home (eg: most halflings go onto either kingdom or continent cast lists due to being transient vagabonds and wanderers.) This is just the default my mind has come up with to organise them, but I'm curious how others approach it.


3)
In the future (going from what's in the survey) they intend to change this so the World Almanac always shows everything.
3) Story and World are going to have some tuning done. Not sure the time frame. My read of the changes are that multiple Story options will become available so you could set things up for different groups, different adventures, different views.... At that time, World will contain everything. Rob will jump in if my crystal ball is dirty....
I look forward to this change, particularly multiple story almanacs within one realm. It makes much more sense for the World Almanac to always have everything, and then story almanacs being comprised of whatever you've designated for that particular story.

4)
4) You can give any item an alias.. You choose which names to reveal.. So name the item/npc/whatever, then add an alias (use the tool button in the profile) and hide the real name.. :)
At present, yes. The suggestions forum has requests to change this.
Hmm, these 2 responses seem to conflict.
FreakFire, I am at work atm, do you know if the alias allows you to disguise the actual topic's name, or is the alias a snippet within the topic?
 
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At present the name of the Topic/Article will always be revealed to players. What you can do is give a Topic/Article an obfuscated name, put the other names as Aliases, and choose which Aliases to reveal. (This is what FreakFire was suggesting.)

Right, yeah thats what I thought. Giving all my topics an obfuscated name is more hassle than its worth and would cause me many headaches all in the name of a bit of suspense. I hope they can change it so that the topic title doesn't have to be revealed.

edit: still nice to know there is a work-around in case I really want to do it as a one off or something :)
 
Ad 2)

Organizing your NPCs is indeed preference (Using the containing ability is in its essence preference instead of rule). I run a Pendragon game where family is very important so I started with organizing them by family. As I have almost close to 500 NPCs (both dead and living) this is also a lot of families. I now use the following organization:
Race
Region
Family

Since some families go across regions I have decided that the region they are organized in is the region where the head of the family resides.
 
Nodice if you want, send me a PM I'dlove to show off what I have done so far with my work on my campaign and storyline. I can share with you what I have learned and get some outside opinions on what I can do to make my work better and improved upon.

I can invite you to my realm if you PM me with your email, I have a teamspeak server if you have a headset, we can share some ideas, I have some time this weekend.
 
I thought there was a topic about just 'Searching' but I can't find it; I'm not trying to hijack Nodice's thread here, but since he asked about it, I'm chiming in.

I have never been able to get RW to search via text string, or at least, I can't discern how it's telling me what it's returning.

I moved my information over to RW from a program called MyInfo. Searching MyInfo for the term 'tome' to find reference to something I awarded my players, it returned about 8 topics.

Doing that in RW, it just sort of sits there and it's the same for any text string.

How, exactly, does RW 'flag' the results of a text search? Does the text search cover the entire almanac?

Thanks guys and sorry again Nodice.
 
I thought there was a topic about just 'Searching' but I can't find it; I'm not trying to hijack Nodice's thread here, but since he asked about it, I'm chiming in.

I have never been able to get RW to search via text string, or at least, I can't discern how it's telling me what it's returning.

I moved my information over to RW from a program called MyInfo. Searching MyInfo for the term 'tome' to find reference to something I awarded my players, it returned about 8 topics.

Doing that in RW, it just sort of sits there and it's the same for any text string.

How, exactly, does RW 'flag' the results of a text search? Does the text search cover the entire almanac?

Thanks guys and sorry again Nodice.

It is possible the full text index got out of sync with the database. You can try to rebuild the index (go into a realm and then "Manage" and then "Rebuild Index") and then try the search again.
 
I have never been able to get RW to search via text string, or at least, I can't discern how it's telling me what it's returning
To search for Topics/Articles that contain a specific bit of text, you:
  • Click on the magnifying glass icon in the Navigation Pane's tab or press Ctrl-Shift-F.
  • Check "Enable Custom Search Filtering within Tab".
  • Type in the text for which you want to search.
  • Click OK or hit Enter.
Now the list of items in the Navigation Pane should only show Topics/Articles that have that text.

This doesn't tell you where that text is in a Topic/Article, though. To do that you have to view the Topic/Article and use the Find dialog (from the Content Pane Options popup menu or Ctrl-F) to search for the same text.

Also, Search Filtering only shows you items in the current view. If you want to search both Almanacs and the Mechanics Reference you'll need to view each one and reapply the filter.

Hope this sheds some light on the subject.
 
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It is possible the full text index got out of sync with the database. You can try to rebuild the index (go into a realm and then "Manage" and then "Rebuild Index") and then try the search again.
Same result. I'm not ruling out a procedural issue on my end.

In the box at the top of the Category list which says 'Story Almanac' I click on the magnifying class.

I type 'tome' in the top field of the dialog box (no quotes used in dialog)

I then click 'Ok'.

At this point, I expect 'something' to happen to somehow indicate topics that contain the word tome in it.
 
Did you check the "Enable Custom Search Filtering within Tab" checkbox? Your filter does nothing if it's not checked, which is exactly what you're describing.

Overly Pedantic Picture:
SearchFiltering.png
 
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That was it. When I first read davidp's reply, I didn't notice your posts in between until you replied again.

Thanks a bunch Parody, I really appreciate it.

It doesn't seem to highlight the resulted text, however? Ah well.
 
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