Download issues

[emperor799 at earthlink.n]

Hey. I've been having problems downloading things from within Cardvault. I was hoping it would go away when I finally got 1.1a to dl right, but it just happened again when trying to dl 1.1b. The problem seems to come from when I'm doing anything else at all over the internet. If I'm browsing, checking my mail, ANYTHING while CV is downloading something, I get an error when its finished dling. For the updates, it exited out of CV to install like normal, but then an error message pops up say unexpected file size and that my file size is 13--whatever when its supposed to be 17-whatever. Then when dling datafiles and doing something else, it will completely finish dling and ask if I want to import them now, I say yes, and then it gives me an error that the files must be corrupted and to try again. I may not be using exact terms here, so I hope you understand. Well, if I exit out of everything else I'm doing online and then re-dl the update of files, everything works fine. I'm not sure what the problem is, and I was wondering if you've encountered it before. I have dial-up and dling everything a couple times until it works right is VERY time consuming.


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[rob]

Card Vault uses the standard mechanisms provided within Windows for
downloading files. Specifically, it uses the API provided in the "wininet"
DLL. CV is doing absolutely nothing but basic stuff, since it has to work
smoothly with both the newest and oldest versions of this DLL (from back in
1995).

Do you have any download accelerators installed? If so, that is most likely
the source of the problem. Not all sites work correctly in conjunction with
the accelerators. We've had a couple of reports of users having problems
with downloads due to accelerators. Try disabling the accelerator and
trying the download again. To my knowledge, this has always solved the
problem for others that have had download issues.

Thanks, Rob

At 02:36 PM 4/12/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>Hey. I've been having problems downloading things from within Cardvault. I
>was hoping it would go away when I finally got 1.1a to dl right, but it
>just happened again when trying to dl 1.1b. The problem seems to come from
>when I'm doing anything else at all over the internet. If I'm browsing,
>checking my mail, ANYTHING while CV is downloading something, I get an
>error when its finished dling. For the updates, it exited out of CV to
>install like normal, but then an error message pops up say unexpected file
>size and that my file size is 13--whatever when its supposed to be
>17-whatever. Then when dling datafiles and doing something else, it will
>completely finish dling and ask if I want to import them now, I say yes,
>and then it gives me an error that the files must be corrupted and to try
>again. I may not be using exact terms here, so I hope you understand.
>Well, if I exit out of everything else I'm doing online and then re-dl the
>update of files, everything works fine. I'm not sure what the problem is,
>and I was wondering if you've encountered it before. I have dial-up and
>dling everything a couple times until it works right is VERY time consuming.


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[emperor799 at earthlink.n]

I have the accelerators disabled by default and only use them when needed. I posted before about accelerators not working with the files in yahoo groups, but this is entirely different. I don't have this problem any other time I download things, accelerated or not. Come to think of it I did have a problem with a rar archive the other day. The only thing I can think of that has changed recently is my antivirus tool. I use Norton's autoprotect now. Could that be causing problems/interfering with the dls?


--Kyle Turner
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"That's between me and my mind" -- Firefly


----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Bowes
To: cardvault@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: [CardVault] Download issues


Card Vault uses the standard mechanisms provided within Windows for
downloading files. Specifically, it uses the API provided in the "wininet"
DLL. CV is doing absolutely nothing but basic stuff, since it has to work
smoothly with both the newest and oldest versions of this DLL (from back in
1995).

Do you have any download accelerators installed? If so, that is most likely
the source of the problem. Not all sites work correctly in conjunction with
the accelerators. We've had a couple of reports of users having problems
with downloads due to accelerators. Try disabling the accelerator and
trying the download again. To my knowledge, this has always solved the
problem for others that have had download issues.

Thanks, Rob

At 02:36 PM 4/12/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>Hey. I've been having problems downloading things from within Cardvault. I
>was hoping it would go away when I finally got 1.1a to dl right, but it
>just happened again when trying to dl 1.1b. The problem seems to come from
>when I'm doing anything else at all over the internet. If I'm browsing,
>checking my mail, ANYTHING while CV is downloading something, I get an
>error when its finished dling. For the updates, it exited out of CV to
>install like normal, but then an error message pops up say unexpected file
>size and that my file size is 13--whatever when its supposed to be
>17-whatever. Then when dling datafiles and doing something else, it will
>completely finish dling and ask if I want to import them now, I say yes,
>and then it gives me an error that the files must be corrupted and to try
>again. I may not be using exact terms here, so I hope you understand.
>Well, if I exit out of everything else I'm doing online and then re-dl the
>update of files, everything works fine. I'm not sure what the problem is,
>and I was wondering if you've encountered it before. I have dial-up and
>dling everything a couple times until it works right is VERY time consuming.


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[rob]

I have no idea what Norton's autoprotect even does, so I don't know whether
it could be involved. If that's the only thing that has changed, I wouldn't
be surprised if it's the culprit. I recommend disabling it and seeing if
things work again.

My personal experience has been pretty poor with Norton products since
shortly after Symantec bought them, so I avoid using their stuff. But
that's just my experience and there are lots of folks who use Norton products.

Let me know what you come up with....

Thanks, Rob

At 04:24 PM 4/12/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>I have the accelerators disabled by default and only use them when needed.
>I posted before about accelerators not working with the files in yahoo
>groups, but this is entirely different. I don't have this problem any
>other time I download things, accelerated or not. Come to think of it I
>did have a problem with a rar archive the other day. The only thing I can
>think of that has changed recently is my antivirus tool. I use Norton's
>autoprotect now. Could that be causing problems/interfering with the dls?


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[emperor799 at earthlink.n]

Okay, I was already planning to test w/o autoprotect on. More off topic: What antivirus tool would you recommend? I don't care for Norton much myself, but am at a lost to find a better alternative.


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"That's between me and my mind" -- Firefly


----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Bowes
To: cardvault@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [CardVault] Download issues


I have no idea what Norton's autoprotect even does, so I don't know whether
it could be involved. If that's the only thing that has changed, I wouldn't
be surprised if it's the culprit. I recommend disabling it and seeing if
things work again.

My personal experience has been pretty poor with Norton products since
shortly after Symantec bought them, so I avoid using their stuff. But
that's just my experience and there are lots of folks who use Norton products.

Let me know what you come up with....

Thanks, Rob

At 04:24 PM 4/12/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>I have the accelerators disabled by default and only use them when needed.
>I posted before about accelerators not working with the files in yahoo
>groups, but this is entirely different. I don't have this problem any
>other time I download things, accelerated or not. Come to think of it I
>did have a problem with a rar archive the other day. The only thing I can
>think of that has changed recently is my antivirus tool. I use Norton's
>autoprotect now. Could that be causing problems/interfering with the dls?


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[rob]

I use VirusScan from McAfee. The product seems to be technically sound from
all that I've mucked with it. Unfortunately, some moron in marketing
decided they should rewrite UI into an utterly pathetic excuse for
usability a couple years ago. It looks spiffy compared to a boring Windows
application, but it's very clunky to use due to a very stupid design.

There may be other good options out there. I stick with VirusScan purely
because it seems technically sound (something I don't experience with
Norton) and I don't have the time to go evaluating other optoins without a
demonstrated need.

-Rob

At 04:32 PM 4/12/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>Okay, I was already planning to test w/o autoprotect on. More off topic:
>What antivirus tool would you recommend? I don't care for Norton much
>myself, but am at a lost to find a better alternative.


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[emperor799 at earthlink.n]

Okay, thanks. I had already heard bad things about McAfee though. I think there's some Russian antivirus that's supposed to be good, but I don't know the name. Anyway, I'll test with Norton off and get back to you.


--Kyle Turner
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"That's between me and my mind" -- Firefly


----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Bowes
To: cardvault@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: [CardVault] Download issues


I use VirusScan from McAfee. The product seems to be technically sound from
all that I've mucked with it. Unfortunately, some moron in marketing
decided they should rewrite UI into an utterly pathetic excuse for
usability a couple years ago. It looks spiffy compared to a boring Windows
application, but it's very clunky to use due to a very stupid design.

There may be other good options out there. I stick with VirusScan purely
because it seems technically sound (something I don't experience with
Norton) and I don't have the time to go evaluating other optoins without a
demonstrated need.

-Rob

At 04:32 PM 4/12/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>Okay, I was already planning to test w/o autoprotect on. More off topic:
>What antivirus tool would you recommend? I don't care for Norton much
>myself, but am at a lost to find a better alternative.


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[rob]

What were the bad things you've heard about McAfee? I definitely think the
UI stinks - it would be hard to make it worse. But what about technically?
If there are technical issues with it that I haven't uncovered, I'd
definitely like to know.

-Rob

At 04:45 PM 4/12/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>Okay, thanks. I had already heard bad things about McAfee though. I think
>there's some Russian antivirus that's supposed to be good, but I don't
>know the name. Anyway, I'll test with Norton off and get back to you.


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[emperor799 at earthlink.n]

I don't recall any specific issues of the top of my head. It's been a few years since I was shopping around and kept hearing "Just don't get McAfee" and things like that. I'm not sure if it was just UI problems, or tech issues as well, but I'll be sure to let you know if I find out anything specific.


--Kyle Turner
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----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Bowes
To: cardvault@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: [CardVault] Download issues


What were the bad things you've heard about McAfee? I definitely think the
UI stinks - it would be hard to make it worse. But what about technically?
If there are technical issues with it that I haven't uncovered, I'd
definitely like to know.

-Rob

At 04:45 PM 4/12/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>Okay, thanks. I had already heard bad things about McAfee though. I think
>there's some Russian antivirus that's supposed to be good, but I don't
>know the name. Anyway, I'll test with Norton off and get back to you.


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[edward at bolme.com]

Try using the slower download... I had the same problem myself.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kyle Turner" <emperor799@earthlink.net>
To: cv@support.wolflair.com
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 11:36 AM
Subject: [CardVault] Download issues


> Hey. I've been having problems downloading things from within Cardvault. I
was hoping it would go away when I finally got 1.1a to dl right, but it just
happened again when trying to dl 1.1b. The problem seems to come from when
I'm doing anything else at all over the internet. If I'm browsing, checking
my mail, ANYTHING while CV is downloading something, I get an error when its
finished dling. For the updates, it exited out of CV to install like normal,
but then an error message pops up say unexpected file size and that my file
size is 13--whatever when its supposed to be 17-whatever. Then when dling
datafiles and doing something else, it will completely finish dling and ask
if I want to import them now, I say yes, and then it gives me an error that
the files must be corrupted and to try again. I may not be using exact terms
here, so I hope you understand. Well, if I exit out of everything else I'm
doing online and then re-dl the update of files, everything works fine. I'm
no!
> t sure what the problem is, and I was wondering if you've encountered it
before. I have dial-up and dling everything a couple times until it works
right is VERY time consuming.
>
>
> --Kyle Turner
> emperor799@earthlink.net
>
>
> "You're out of your mind!"
> "That's between me and my mind" -- Firefly
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[emperor799 at earthlink.n]

I got it to work on the second try. But it happens with the datafiles too, and there's only the one source for them.


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----- Original Message -----
From: Edward Bolme
To: cardvault@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [CardVault] Download issues


Try using the slower download... I had the same problem myself.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kyle Turner" <emperor799@earthlink.net>
To: "Cardvault Group" <cardvault@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 11:36 AM
Subject: [CardVault] Download issues


> Hey. I've been having problems downloading things from within Cardvault. I
was hoping it would go away when I finally got 1.1a to dl right, but it just
happened again when trying to dl 1.1b. The problem seems to come from when
I'm doing anything else at all over the internet. If I'm browsing, checking
my mail, ANYTHING while CV is downloading something, I get an error when its
finished dling. For the updates, it exited out of CV to install like normal,
but then an error message pops up say unexpected file size and that my file
size is 13--whatever when its supposed to be 17-whatever. Then when dling
datafiles and doing something else, it will completely finish dling and ask
if I want to import them now, I say yes, and then it gives me an error that
the files must be corrupted and to try again. I may not be using exact terms
here, so I hope you understand. Well, if I exit out of everything else I'm
doing online and then re-dl the update of files, everything works fine. I'm
no!
> t sure what the problem is, and I was wondering if you've encountered it
before. I have dial-up and dling everything a couple times until it works
right is VERY time consuming.
>
>
> --Kyle Turner
> emperor799@earthlink.net
>
>
> "You're out of your mind!"
> "That's between me and my mind" -- Firefly
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[jim at timewarpcomics.com]

Kyle Turner wrote:

> Hey. I've been having problems downloading things from within
> Cardvault. I was hoping it would go away when I finally got 1.1a to dl
> right, but it just happened again when trying to dl 1.1b. The problem
> seems to come from when I'm doing anything else at all over the
> internet. If I'm browsing, checking my

This is more than likely due to a problem with yahoo. they seem to be
constantly modifying things.


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[emperor799 at earthlink.n]

Yes, they are. I'm a moderator of a Star Wars yahoo group, and things are in a constant state of flux. That said, isn't it that only some of the datafiles come from the group, while most of the datafiles and the updates and such all come form the lone wolf server? At any rate, I've been busy, and I'll test out some things tomorrow and see if I can track down a cause. Has this been happening to you too?


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----- Original Message -----
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To: cardvault@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: [CardVault] Download issues


Kyle Turner wrote:

> Hey. I've been having problems downloading things from within
> Cardvault. I was hoping it would go away when I finally got 1.1a to dl
> right, but it just happened again when trying to dl 1.1b. The problem
> seems to come from when I'm doing anything else at all over the
> internet. If I'm browsing, checking my

This is more than likely due to a problem with yahoo. they seem to be
constantly modifying things.


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[kuni_tetsu at yahoo.com]

I have never had a problem with dls. Even on a system with Outlook and several
X-windows running at the same time.

--- Edward Bolme <edward@bolme.com> wrote:
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[Colen]

At 06:19 PM 4/12/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>I got it to work on the second try. But it happens with the datafiles too,
>and there's only the one source for them.

Some datafiles are hosted by Lone Wolf Development, some by Yahoo groups.
For example, the Magic files are on yahoogroups, while Mage Knight is
hosted by Lone Wolf. On this page:

http://www.wolflair.com/rightframe.php?context=card_vault&page=supplemental_downloads

Try downloading some of the datafiles authored by "Lone Wolf Development"
from within Card Vault. If they work fine, but you have problems with
others, then the issue is most likely with yahoo groups. (I know I
sometimes have problems downloading stuff from them.)


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[emperor799 at earthlink.n]

What about the v1.1a and 1.1b updates? were they on yahoo?


--Kyle Turner
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----- Original Message -----
From: Colen McAlister
To: cardvault@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [CardVault] Download issues


At 06:19 PM 4/12/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>I got it to work on the second try. But it happens with the datafiles too,
>and there's only the one source for them.

Some datafiles are hosted by Lone Wolf Development, some by Yahoo groups.
For example, the Magic files are on yahoogroups, while Mage Knight is
hosted by Lone Wolf. On this page:

http://www.wolflair.com/rightframe.php?context=card_vault&page=supplemental_downloads

Try downloading some of the datafiles authored by "Lone Wolf Development"
from within Card Vault. If they work fine, but you have problems with
others, then the issue is most likely with yahoo groups. (I know I
sometimes have problems downloading stuff from them.)


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[Colen]

At 03:51 PM 4/14/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>What about the v1.1a and 1.1b updates? were they on yahoo?

The standard download is, but the alternate download is not; hence, if you
have problems with the standard download, please use the alternate download.


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