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There are 9 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Harlequin Q
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
2. Tau Files
From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com>
3. Re: Tau Files
From: "Jon Beatty" <noj@bigfoot.com>
4. wish list additions
From: aedwards@tripos.com
5. Re: wish list additions
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
6. Re: Re: Tau Files
From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com>
7. Error in 40k Data files (minor error)
From: "Steve Prince" <dracule@home.com>
8. Re: Error in 40k Data files (minor error)
From: Michael Nixon <mnixon@macn.bc.ca>
9. Re: Error in 40k Data files (minor error)
From: Ghazhkull_Thraka@dakkadakka.com
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 14:18:12 +0100
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Harlequin Q
At 20:09 19/09/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>Colen,
>
>I think there be a small problem with the Add Troupe Leader option to
>the HAJetbike Squad Unit. It appears that the datafile "forgets" that
>the troop leader is still mounted on a jetbike. This becomes
>problematic because it is possible to assign your troop leader to the
>jetbike with the Shuriken Cannon upgrade (I see nothing in the codex
>preventing this); however, there is no way to represent this on the
>output.
That's because it's illegal. The shuriken cannon comes from the Options
section, so the leader can't take it.
>Obviously, it's really not that big of a problem (the TL actually
>shows no jetbike weps whatsoever, you just have to remember) but I'm a
>bit obsessive
I'll get it to display the weapons properly, that should be happening.
>Related to this, unlike when assigning a troop
>leader to an Harlequin infantry troop. The datafile fails to reduce
>the # of CCWs assigned to the troop, though it does reduce the number
>of models in the troupe (thereby triggering a validation error). How
>could this be fixed?
i'll fix it for the next update.
--
Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister, demandred@skrill.org
http://www.skrill.org/, http://www.incompetence-central.co.uk/
1 = 2, for large values of 1.
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 10:25:07 -0700
From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com>
Subject: Tau Files
I am continuing my work on the Tau files. I won't be releasing anything
until the codex is available in the US.
-Shawn
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 19:57:43 -0000
From: "Jon Beatty" <noj@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: Tau Files
--- In armybuilder@y..., "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@e...> wrote:
> I am continuing my work on the Tau files. I won't be releasing
anything
> until the codex is available in the US.
>
> -Shawn
I can understand your reasoning for not releasing the Tau files, but
I am alittle disapointed. Not to get my hands on the rules for free
or anything because I will own the Tau codex I was hopping to pice a
Tau army together because I have the Box set pre-ordered and wanted
to know what I needed to pre-order to have the army I wanted. In
fact I have two armybox sets on pre-order in order to have two
broadsides and 24 firecast and 6 crisis. But, I guess I'll just
have to wait, so I guess no more check this egroup three times a
day everyday until Oct 8th
Jon
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 20:49:28 -0000
From: aedwards@tripos.com
Subject: wish list additions
Is a 2 letter pneumonic for the race (in data files)
enough? Granted it seems to work fine in WFB. But
I am asking because WAB already has 40 distinct armies
and the next few supplements will easily triple that
number. Only having two digits per "race" is already
losing the pneumonic value of the race prefix. I imagine
some other games (historicals would be my first guess but
fantasy or sci-fi might too) already have this problem
or are not too far away from it.
Tony
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 22:14:21 +0100
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: wish list additions
At 20:49 23/09/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>Is a 2 letter pneumonic for the race (in data files)
>enough? Granted it seems to work fine in WFB. But
>I am asking because WAB already has 40 distinct armies
>and the next few supplements will easily triple that
>number. Only having two digits per "race" is already
>losing the pneumonic value of the race prefix. I imagine
>some other games (historicals would be my first guess but
>fantasy or sci-fi might too) already have this problem
>or are not too far away from it.
I think it would be tremendously difficult to implement any change to this,
without breaking every single datafile in ever written in tremendously
damaging and irritating ways
--
Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister, demandred@skrill.org
http://www.skrill.org/, http://www.incompetence-central.co.uk/
1 = 2, for large values of 1.
________________________________________________________________________
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 20:19:08 -0700
From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Tau Files
Colen or Rob,
What are the legalities of releasing the Tau files before the codex release?
Is it okay, because it's released in the UK? Should I be waiting for the US
release.
I wouldn't mind some people with the codex to help beta-test the files
before I make them public.
-Shawn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Beatty" <noj@bigfoot.com>
> I can understand your reasoning for not releasing the Tau files, but
> I am alittle disapointed. Not to get my hands on the rules for free
> or anything because I will own the Tau codex I was hopping to pice a
> Tau army together because I have the Box set pre-ordered and wanted
> to know what I needed to pre-order to have the army I wanted. In
> fact I have two armybox sets on pre-order in order to have two
> broadsides and 24 firecast and 6 crisis. But, I guess I'll just
> have to wait, so I guess no more check this egroup three times a
> day everyday until Oct 8th
>
> Jon
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, email
>
> armybuilder-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
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>
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 23:50:26 -0500
From: "Steve Prince" <dracule@home.com>
Subject: Error in 40k Data files (minor error)
When choosing wargear for my Warbike Outrider Nob in the Kult of Speed
army that I am working on I ran in to a small problem. When choosing 'Eavy
Armour (4+ save) and Bionik Bonce (+1 to your save)...it only shows a
4+/5(u)...when it should be 3+/5(u)..
And a question, when choosing 2 hth weapons for your Nob in a warbike
outriders unit, do you get the +1 attack for 2 hth weapons? Or is it
assumed (and this is my take on it) that orks have enough problems driving
with 1 hand...let alone trying to do with none!
Thanks in advance,
Steve Prince
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 21:24:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Nixon <mnixon@macn.bc.ca>
Subject: Re: Error in 40k Data files (minor error)
> When choosing wargear for my Warbike Outrider Nob in the Kult of Speed
> army that I am working on I ran in to a small problem. When choosing 'Eavy
> Armour (4+ save) and Bionik Bonce (+1 to your save)...it only shows a
> 4+/5(u)...when it should be 3+/5(u)..
I might add that the armour on all warbike nobs appears nonfunctional.
For regular Orks it just gives 6+/5+(U) when eavy armour and bionik bonce
is applied. It likes cybork armour even less and shows -/5(U)+/5(I) when
it is applied on top of those other 2 or any combination or by itself.
Kult of Speed regular warbike nobs are the same.
In summary:
'Eavy Armour and Bionik Bonce do nothing for these two nobs. The display
states at 6+/5+(U)
Cybork Armour always does this: -/5+(U) + /5+(I) when added, regardless of
other armour.
For the Outrider Warbike Nob, he starts off as 4+/5+(U). 'Eavy Armour and
Bionik Bonce do nothing in any combination, and Cybork Armour has the same
result as above.
My data files are WH40k 2.31, AB 2.2A. I know it's not the latest AB, but
that shouldn't change the data file.
-Michael
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 06:15:53 -0000
From: Ghazhkull_Thraka@dakkadakka.com
Subject: Re: Error in 40k Data files (minor error)
>From the UK GT Clarifications:
In the Dark Eldar Codex, in the Reaver description it
says "Characters riding a Reaver jetbike may only be armed with
single-handed weapons, and may only use one at a time (they need the
other hand free to control the jetbike)."
This applies not only to the Reaver Jetbike but to all other bike
mounted models unless their Codex specifies otherwise (Orks for
example may use additional close combat weapons).
--- In armybuilder@y..., "Steve Prince" <dracule@h...> wrote:
> When choosing wargear for my Warbike Outrider Nob in the Kult of
Speed
> army that I am working on I ran in to a small problem. When
choosing 'Eavy
> Armour (4+ save) and Bionik Bonce (+1 to your save)...it only shows
a
> 4+/5(u)...when it should be 3+/5(u)..
>
> And a question, when choosing 2 hth weapons for your Nob in a
warbike
> outriders unit, do you get the +1 attack for 2 hth weapons? Or is
it
> assumed (and this is my take on it) that orks have enough problems
driving
> with 1 hand...let alone trying to do with none!
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Steve Prince
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There are 9 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Harlequin Q
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
2. Tau Files
From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com>
3. Re: Tau Files
From: "Jon Beatty" <noj@bigfoot.com>
4. wish list additions
From: aedwards@tripos.com
5. Re: wish list additions
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
6. Re: Re: Tau Files
From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com>
7. Error in 40k Data files (minor error)
From: "Steve Prince" <dracule@home.com>
8. Re: Error in 40k Data files (minor error)
From: Michael Nixon <mnixon@macn.bc.ca>
9. Re: Error in 40k Data files (minor error)
From: Ghazhkull_Thraka@dakkadakka.com
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 1
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 14:18:12 +0100
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Harlequin Q
At 20:09 19/09/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>Colen,
>
>I think there be a small problem with the Add Troupe Leader option to
>the HAJetbike Squad Unit. It appears that the datafile "forgets" that
>the troop leader is still mounted on a jetbike. This becomes
>problematic because it is possible to assign your troop leader to the
>jetbike with the Shuriken Cannon upgrade (I see nothing in the codex
>preventing this); however, there is no way to represent this on the
>output.
That's because it's illegal. The shuriken cannon comes from the Options
section, so the leader can't take it.
>Obviously, it's really not that big of a problem (the TL actually
>shows no jetbike weps whatsoever, you just have to remember) but I'm a
>bit obsessive
I'll get it to display the weapons properly, that should be happening.
>Related to this, unlike when assigning a troop
>leader to an Harlequin infantry troop. The datafile fails to reduce
>the # of CCWs assigned to the troop, though it does reduce the number
>of models in the troupe (thereby triggering a validation error). How
>could this be fixed?
i'll fix it for the next update.
--
Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister, demandred@skrill.org
http://www.skrill.org/, http://www.incompetence-central.co.uk/
1 = 2, for large values of 1.
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 2
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 10:25:07 -0700
From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com>
Subject: Tau Files
I am continuing my work on the Tau files. I won't be releasing anything
until the codex is available in the US.
-Shawn
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 3
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 19:57:43 -0000
From: "Jon Beatty" <noj@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: Tau Files
--- In armybuilder@y..., "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@e...> wrote:
> I am continuing my work on the Tau files. I won't be releasing
anything
> until the codex is available in the US.
>
> -Shawn
I can understand your reasoning for not releasing the Tau files, but
I am alittle disapointed. Not to get my hands on the rules for free
or anything because I will own the Tau codex I was hopping to pice a
Tau army together because I have the Box set pre-ordered and wanted
to know what I needed to pre-order to have the army I wanted. In
fact I have two armybox sets on pre-order in order to have two
broadsides and 24 firecast and 6 crisis. But, I guess I'll just
have to wait, so I guess no more check this egroup three times a
day everyday until Oct 8th
Jon
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 4
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 20:49:28 -0000
From: aedwards@tripos.com
Subject: wish list additions
Is a 2 letter pneumonic for the race (in data files)
enough? Granted it seems to work fine in WFB. But
I am asking because WAB already has 40 distinct armies
and the next few supplements will easily triple that
number. Only having two digits per "race" is already
losing the pneumonic value of the race prefix. I imagine
some other games (historicals would be my first guess but
fantasy or sci-fi might too) already have this problem
or are not too far away from it.
Tony
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 5
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 22:14:21 +0100
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: wish list additions
At 20:49 23/09/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>Is a 2 letter pneumonic for the race (in data files)
>enough? Granted it seems to work fine in WFB. But
>I am asking because WAB already has 40 distinct armies
>and the next few supplements will easily triple that
>number. Only having two digits per "race" is already
>losing the pneumonic value of the race prefix. I imagine
>some other games (historicals would be my first guess but
>fantasy or sci-fi might too) already have this problem
>or are not too far away from it.
I think it would be tremendously difficult to implement any change to this,
without breaking every single datafile in ever written in tremendously
damaging and irritating ways
--
Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister, demandred@skrill.org
http://www.skrill.org/, http://www.incompetence-central.co.uk/
1 = 2, for large values of 1.
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 6
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 20:19:08 -0700
From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Tau Files
Colen or Rob,
What are the legalities of releasing the Tau files before the codex release?
Is it okay, because it's released in the UK? Should I be waiting for the US
release.
I wouldn't mind some people with the codex to help beta-test the files
before I make them public.
-Shawn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Beatty" <noj@bigfoot.com>
> I can understand your reasoning for not releasing the Tau files, but
> I am alittle disapointed. Not to get my hands on the rules for free
> or anything because I will own the Tau codex I was hopping to pice a
> Tau army together because I have the Box set pre-ordered and wanted
> to know what I needed to pre-order to have the army I wanted. In
> fact I have two armybox sets on pre-order in order to have two
> broadsides and 24 firecast and 6 crisis. But, I guess I'll just
> have to wait, so I guess no more check this egroup three times a
> day everyday until Oct 8th
>
> Jon
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, email
>
> armybuilder-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 23:50:26 -0500
From: "Steve Prince" <dracule@home.com>
Subject: Error in 40k Data files (minor error)
When choosing wargear for my Warbike Outrider Nob in the Kult of Speed
army that I am working on I ran in to a small problem. When choosing 'Eavy
Armour (4+ save) and Bionik Bonce (+1 to your save)...it only shows a
4+/5(u)...when it should be 3+/5(u)..
And a question, when choosing 2 hth weapons for your Nob in a warbike
outriders unit, do you get the +1 attack for 2 hth weapons? Or is it
assumed (and this is my take on it) that orks have enough problems driving
with 1 hand...let alone trying to do with none!
Thanks in advance,
Steve Prince
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 8
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 21:24:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Nixon <mnixon@macn.bc.ca>
Subject: Re: Error in 40k Data files (minor error)
> When choosing wargear for my Warbike Outrider Nob in the Kult of Speed
> army that I am working on I ran in to a small problem. When choosing 'Eavy
> Armour (4+ save) and Bionik Bonce (+1 to your save)...it only shows a
> 4+/5(u)...when it should be 3+/5(u)..
I might add that the armour on all warbike nobs appears nonfunctional.
For regular Orks it just gives 6+/5+(U) when eavy armour and bionik bonce
is applied. It likes cybork armour even less and shows -/5(U)+/5(I) when
it is applied on top of those other 2 or any combination or by itself.
Kult of Speed regular warbike nobs are the same.
In summary:
'Eavy Armour and Bionik Bonce do nothing for these two nobs. The display
states at 6+/5+(U)
Cybork Armour always does this: -/5+(U) + /5+(I) when added, regardless of
other armour.
For the Outrider Warbike Nob, he starts off as 4+/5+(U). 'Eavy Armour and
Bionik Bonce do nothing in any combination, and Cybork Armour has the same
result as above.
My data files are WH40k 2.31, AB 2.2A. I know it's not the latest AB, but
that shouldn't change the data file.
-Michael
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 9
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 06:15:53 -0000
From: Ghazhkull_Thraka@dakkadakka.com
Subject: Re: Error in 40k Data files (minor error)
>From the UK GT Clarifications:
In the Dark Eldar Codex, in the Reaver description it
says "Characters riding a Reaver jetbike may only be armed with
single-handed weapons, and may only use one at a time (they need the
other hand free to control the jetbike)."
This applies not only to the Reaver Jetbike but to all other bike
mounted models unless their Codex specifies otherwise (Orks for
example may use additional close combat weapons).
--- In armybuilder@y..., "Steve Prince" <dracule@h...> wrote:
> When choosing wargear for my Warbike Outrider Nob in the Kult of
Speed
> army that I am working on I ran in to a small problem. When
choosing 'Eavy
> Armour (4+ save) and Bionik Bonce (+1 to your save)...it only shows
a
> 4+/5(u)...when it should be 3+/5(u)..
>
> And a question, when choosing 2 hth weapons for your Nob in a
warbike
> outriders unit, do you get the +1 attack for 2 hth weapons? Or is
it
> assumed (and this is my take on it) that orks have enough problems
driving
> with 1 hand...let alone trying to do with none!
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Steve Prince
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