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Topics in this digest:
1. Fw: question about skaven data files for army builder
From: "GrailKnight" <grailknight@weblnk.net>
2. Re: Some Complex Augmentation File ?s
From: "Debbie Hunton" <hunton@hotmail.com>
3. Re: older files
From: "W.C. [Noel VH]" <noelvh@bigfoot.com>
4. Re: Some Complex Augmentation File ?s
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
5. Re: Some Complex Augmentation File ?s
From: "Debbie Hunton" <hunton@hotmail.com>
6. Re: Fw: question about skaven data files for army builder
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 10:57:14 -0400
From: "GrailKnight" <grailknight@weblnk.net>
Subject: Fw: question about skaven data files for army builder
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 1:33 AM
Subject: question about skaven data files for army builder
hi.
i have the army builder and downloaded your WHFB data files.
i'm setting up a skaven army and have run across a descrepancy between the data files and the army book. in the skaven army book, on pages 54 & 65, it says that plague censer bearers must be attached to a plague monk unit. your data files reflect this. the army book doesn't state a minimun number of bearers that can be attached. your data files starts with 5 bearers and the number can not be decreased. is this something that is in the main WHFB rulebook, something i overlooked in the army book or an error in the data file or program?
thx for all the work you must've put into the data file in the 1st place. i've also downloaded your 40k and epic data files. thx again
bruce boragine
kaxca@flinet.com
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 18:55:19 GMT
From: "Debbie Hunton" <hunton@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Some Complex Augmentation File ?s
Rob,
I'm working on the mounts to start with...
>OK, first is the issue of doubling the unit cost. There are two ways you
>can do this.
>
>The first method is to use the "umul" race attribute. This attribute
>defines a rule that says "all units of type A are multiplied by X in their
>cost". You can double all unit prices by defining a global "umul" attribute
>with a type of "DoubleCost" and a multiplier of 2. Then, anytime you want a
>unit's cost doubled, you simply need to assign that unit the type
>"DoubleCost". This can be done via an option, such as the mount optoin.
I have an option for a mount called mountbr (Bear Mount), with category
Mount, and a cost of 15. It's options are stat:Sv-1; more:double=auto
(double is an option which simply says ucost=all*2); show=spbardng (a
special barding option I created, which I'll get to in a second);
unit:xbear@per=1; more:rebatebr=auto (the rebate, which actually worked out
to need to be 15, since the xbear unit's cost is 15).
The problem that I'm having isn't with the unit's cost (which [YES!] is
working out just fine. The problem is with the spbardng option. It has a
Category of ArmorOpt (like normal barding), a cost of 2 (half what it should
be, so that when it's doubled, it works out right), and options: stat:Sv-1;
chld:mount@Mv-1; chld:mount@Sv-1
When I put the barding on a unit riding bears, the Sv of the main unit goes
down by 1 (which is right), but the child unit isn't adjusted at all. xbear
is a unit which is of type Mount, composition group Retinue, category Mount.
I've chosen conflict group Mnt for the mountbr option.
What am I doing wrong? I've been playing with this for 3 hours today and
can't get it to work!
Debbie
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 15:11:01 -0400
From: "W.C. [Noel VH]" <noelvh@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: older files
Do you need the ORKS, IMP, or CHAOS? If so I can scan them in for you.
Let me know.
Wes.
Mathias Schreiber wrote:
> I´m still waiting for the english scans
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:27:20 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Some Complex Augmentation File ?s
One fine day in the middle of the night, Debbie Hunton
<hunton@hotmail.com> got up to write:
>The problem that I'm having isn't with the unit's cost (which [YES!] is
>working out just fine. The problem is with the spbardng option. It has a
>Category of ArmorOpt (like normal barding), a cost of 2 (half what it should
>be, so that when it's doubled, it works out right), and options: stat:Sv-1;
>chld:mount@Mv-1; chld:mount@Sv-1
>
>When I put the barding on a unit riding bears, the Sv of the main unit goes
>down by 1 (which is right), but the child unit isn't adjusted at all. xbear
>is a unit which is of type Mount, composition group Retinue, category Mount.
> I've chosen conflict group Mnt for the mountbr option.
>
>What am I doing wrong? I've been playing with this for 3 hours today and
>can't get it to work!
Based on what you wrote here, you're asking for the save of units of
type 'mount' to be altered, while the bear has type 'Mount'. Is this
right? IIRC, types are case-sensitive.
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 19:39:55 GMT
From: "Debbie Hunton" <hunton@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Some Complex Augmentation File ?s
>Based on what you wrote here, you're asking for the save of units of
>type 'mount' to be altered, while the bear has type 'Mount'. Is this
>right? IIRC, types are case-sensitive.
It really was that easy. Thanks!
Debbie
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 12:48:56 -0700
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: question about skaven data files for army builder
>i'm setting up a skaven army and have run across a descrepancy between the
>data files and the army book. in the skaven army book, on pages 54 & 65,
>it says that plague censer bearers must be attached to a plague monk
>unit. your data files reflect this. the army book doesn't state a minimun
>number of bearers that can be attached. your data files starts with 5
>bearers and the number can not be decreased. is this something that is
>in the main WHFB rulebook, something i overlooked in the army book or an
>error in the data file or program?
PCBs are still a standard regiment in WFB. Therefore, they are bound by the
fundamental rule that a regiment must be 5+ models, unless specifically
stated otherwise. No such statement is made, therefore it looks to me like
they should be 5+ models (as enforced by the files). This is just my
opinion, however.
Hope this helps,
Rob
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There are 6 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Fw: question about skaven data files for army builder
From: "GrailKnight" <grailknight@weblnk.net>
2. Re: Some Complex Augmentation File ?s
From: "Debbie Hunton" <hunton@hotmail.com>
3. Re: older files
From: "W.C. [Noel VH]" <noelvh@bigfoot.com>
4. Re: Some Complex Augmentation File ?s
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
5. Re: Some Complex Augmentation File ?s
From: "Debbie Hunton" <hunton@hotmail.com>
6. Re: Fw: question about skaven data files for army builder
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 10:57:14 -0400
From: "GrailKnight" <grailknight@weblnk.net>
Subject: Fw: question about skaven data files for army builder
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 1:33 AM
Subject: question about skaven data files for army builder
hi.
i have the army builder and downloaded your WHFB data files.
i'm setting up a skaven army and have run across a descrepancy between the data files and the army book. in the skaven army book, on pages 54 & 65, it says that plague censer bearers must be attached to a plague monk unit. your data files reflect this. the army book doesn't state a minimun number of bearers that can be attached. your data files starts with 5 bearers and the number can not be decreased. is this something that is in the main WHFB rulebook, something i overlooked in the army book or an error in the data file or program?
thx for all the work you must've put into the data file in the 1st place. i've also downloaded your 40k and epic data files. thx again
bruce boragine
kaxca@flinet.com
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 18:55:19 GMT
From: "Debbie Hunton" <hunton@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Some Complex Augmentation File ?s
Rob,
I'm working on the mounts to start with...
>OK, first is the issue of doubling the unit cost. There are two ways you
>can do this.
>
>The first method is to use the "umul" race attribute. This attribute
>defines a rule that says "all units of type A are multiplied by X in their
>cost". You can double all unit prices by defining a global "umul" attribute
>with a type of "DoubleCost" and a multiplier of 2. Then, anytime you want a
>unit's cost doubled, you simply need to assign that unit the type
>"DoubleCost". This can be done via an option, such as the mount optoin.
I have an option for a mount called mountbr (Bear Mount), with category
Mount, and a cost of 15. It's options are stat:Sv-1; more:double=auto
(double is an option which simply says ucost=all*2); show=spbardng (a
special barding option I created, which I'll get to in a second);
unit:xbear@per=1; more:rebatebr=auto (the rebate, which actually worked out
to need to be 15, since the xbear unit's cost is 15).
The problem that I'm having isn't with the unit's cost (which [YES!] is
working out just fine. The problem is with the spbardng option. It has a
Category of ArmorOpt (like normal barding), a cost of 2 (half what it should
be, so that when it's doubled, it works out right), and options: stat:Sv-1;
chld:mount@Mv-1; chld:mount@Sv-1
When I put the barding on a unit riding bears, the Sv of the main unit goes
down by 1 (which is right), but the child unit isn't adjusted at all. xbear
is a unit which is of type Mount, composition group Retinue, category Mount.
I've chosen conflict group Mnt for the mountbr option.
What am I doing wrong? I've been playing with this for 3 hours today and
can't get it to work!
Debbie
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 15:11:01 -0400
From: "W.C. [Noel VH]" <noelvh@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: older files
Do you need the ORKS, IMP, or CHAOS? If so I can scan them in for you.
Let me know.
Wes.
Mathias Schreiber wrote:
> I´m still waiting for the english scans
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> [GO.com. Click to find what you're looking for]
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe from this group, email
>
> armybuilder-unsubscribe@egroups.com
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:27:20 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Some Complex Augmentation File ?s
One fine day in the middle of the night, Debbie Hunton
<hunton@hotmail.com> got up to write:
>The problem that I'm having isn't with the unit's cost (which [YES!] is
>working out just fine. The problem is with the spbardng option. It has a
>Category of ArmorOpt (like normal barding), a cost of 2 (half what it should
>be, so that when it's doubled, it works out right), and options: stat:Sv-1;
>chld:mount@Mv-1; chld:mount@Sv-1
>
>When I put the barding on a unit riding bears, the Sv of the main unit goes
>down by 1 (which is right), but the child unit isn't adjusted at all. xbear
>is a unit which is of type Mount, composition group Retinue, category Mount.
> I've chosen conflict group Mnt for the mountbr option.
>
>What am I doing wrong? I've been playing with this for 3 hours today and
>can't get it to work!
Based on what you wrote here, you're asking for the save of units of
type 'mount' to be altered, while the bear has type 'Mount'. Is this
right? IIRC, types are case-sensitive.
--
'Not Colin' McAlister | License to Skrill
Email: demandred@skrill.org | Visit http://www.skrill.org/ today!
-----------------------------+------------------------------------
"Dovie'andi se tovya sagain" - Robert Jordan's Wheel Of Time
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 19:39:55 GMT
From: "Debbie Hunton" <hunton@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Some Complex Augmentation File ?s
>Based on what you wrote here, you're asking for the save of units of
>type 'mount' to be altered, while the bear has type 'Mount'. Is this
>right? IIRC, types are case-sensitive.
It really was that easy. Thanks!
Debbie
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 12:48:56 -0700
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: question about skaven data files for army builder
>i'm setting up a skaven army and have run across a descrepancy between the
>data files and the army book. in the skaven army book, on pages 54 & 65,
>it says that plague censer bearers must be attached to a plague monk
>unit. your data files reflect this. the army book doesn't state a minimun
>number of bearers that can be attached. your data files starts with 5
>bearers and the number can not be decreased. is this something that is
>in the main WHFB rulebook, something i overlooked in the army book or an
>error in the data file or program?
PCBs are still a standard regiment in WFB. Therefore, they are bound by the
fundamental rule that a regiment must be 5+ models, unless specifically
stated otherwise. No such statement is made, therefore it looks to me like
they should be 5+ models (as enforced by the files). This is just my
opinion, however.
Hope this helps,
Rob
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Lone Wolf Development www.wolflair.com
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