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There are 13 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Fw: Army Builder
From: "Christopher Beilby" <cbeilby@hroads.net>
2. Re: Composition Rule Set
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
3. Re: asking about a background option
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
4. wh40kmaster2001@yahoo.com
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
5. RE: Digest Number 325
From: "Rothman, Daniel (IGNITE)" <drothman.dmth94@gtalumni.org>
6. Re: Digest Number 325
From: "Christepher McKenney" <blazetopast@hotmail.com>
7. Re: asking about a background option
From: "Fallenhunter" <fallenhunter@neo.rr.com>
8. Re: asking about a background option
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
9. Re: asking about a background option
From: "Fallenhunter" <fallenhunter@neo.rr.com>
10. 40k: Dark Eldar Shadow
From: extremezen@hotmail.com
11. Re: 40k: Dark Eldar Shadow
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
12. Re: 40k: Dark Eldar Shadow
From: "D K" <extremezen@hotmail.com>
13. Re: Tyranid Army Builder
From: Matthew Weaver <m_weave@yahoo.com>


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:04:06 -0500
From: "Christopher Beilby" <cbeilby@hroads.net>
Subject: Fw: Army Builder


>
> >> I would just like to say that, as a 40k player, 40kMaster in no way
> >> represents me or any other 40k players I know. Thank you.
> >>
> >> Fred
>
> Oh, I agree, Fred. He's the exception, not the rule...
>
> Brother Christopher, Grand Master of the Nightmare Angels




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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 18:21:57 +0000
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Composition Rule Set

At 17:21 06/03/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>I could launch into all the technical details here, but I'm sure your eyes
>would glaze over. :-) Suffice to say that the information tracked within AB
>is explicitly tied to the scenario you select when the roster is created.
>This includes things like unit X being treated differently under scenarios
>A and B. This means that you CANNOT switch between scenarios once you've
>created your roster. Switching the composition rule-set is easy, provided
>constraints associated with the scenario don't impact the composition
>handling. Unfortunately, for 40K, I believe that the scenario selection
>DOES impact the composition handling in various cases, so this isn't
>possible (Colen can confirm whether I'm correct in this).

For most things it doesn't (e.g., just the normal "Standard mission",
"Battle - Attacker" etc.) but for a few it does - planetfall, Grand
Tournament, etc. It was a design decision on my part, which I believe to
have been entirely correct at the time. :)

>AB did it this
>way 3 years ago for performance reasons. Now that computers are a lot
>faster, it's on the todo list to change this in a future release.

Yay :)


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 18:24:44 +0000
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: asking about a background option

At 20:35 06/03/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Could I suggest something?
>
>AB does not have to do the dithering, make it so that the person who
>wrote the datafile did and have him mantain the images.
>
>*ducks the incoming anvil*

Too bad about the machine-gun fire...

If you put the burden of doing picture on whoever does the datafiles, two
things happen:

1) The person who does the datafiles has to know how to do it.
2) The size of the distributed .ab file would quickly swell as people
submitted images they wanted to use.

Having selectable pictures is fine. If I have to actually do anything about
them, that's not fine. :)


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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 18:25:59 +0000
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: wh40kmaster2001@yahoo.com

wh40kmaster2001@yahoo.com - stop it. It's not big, it's not clever, and you
can't have your posting privilidges back until you learn to behave.

NB: Haha, I have POWER! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!


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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:32:00 -0500
From: "Rothman, Daniel (IGNITE)" <drothman.dmth94@gtalumni.org>
Subject: RE: Digest Number 325

hey rob -

when you kick out PostScript (or HPCL) can't you indicate that an image
should have a transparency value? I'm not sure if you're down in that layer
of the API, but if you are, it might provide a quick-and-dirty.

Alternately, doesn't either JPEG or GIF have a transparency field in the
protocol? If they do, and the Windows rendering widgets honor it, you could
require the backgrounds in whichever format, twiddle the parameter, and let
the renderers do the work...

BTW, if either of these work, you could be a real mensch and provide a dial
for folks to set their own transparency ;)

daniel

> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 17:13:35 -0800
> From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
> Subject: Re: asking about a background option
>
> This is on the "todo" list, but it's not as easy as it may seem. It's
> called a "watermark", and the watermark needs to be converted to a
> black/white image that uses a dithering pattern to soften it
> (much like the
> way newspapers get lighter shades of grey with purely black
> ink). If the
> image isn't dithered, then it's a solid blob in the background that
> obscures the roster itself. The gotcha is that either the
> user or AB has to
> do the dithering, and it appears that most users don't have
> any idea about
> how to do the dithering (no surprise). That means that AB has
> to do the
> dithering work if it's going to be useful for most users, and
> that takes a
> fair bit of time to implement. So far, that time has gone
> into other more
> valuable features like the auto-update notification and the
> integrated
> retrieval/import of new data files. But it's on the todo list!
>
> Hope this helps,
> Rob
>
>
> At 01:48 AM 3/3/01 +0000, you wrote:
> >I know that if you run either the demo version of army builder, or if
> >you run the cd version without the cd in the drive, then the rosters
> >have an image on the page saying demo mode (or something close). Is
> >there a way to make this image appear using the full version, and
> >with different images?
> >
> >I wouldn't mind seeing the inquisitor's "I" symbol as a background
> >image for my marines, or some other picture for my tyranids.
> >
> >Chris Stricker
>



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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:35:37 -0500
From: "Christepher McKenney" <blazetopast@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Digest Number 325

----Original Message Follows----
From: naganoth@hotmail.com
Subject: Some problems with Warhammer Skaven Stats

I notice a couple of mistakes in the latest build of the Skaven list.

1. Plague Priest should be able to become a general. Currently, no
option to tag it as general exists.

2. Packmaster (for Giant Rats unit) stats line is wrong. WS,BS,Ld
are off. Should there be an option to take an entire giant rats unit
without packmasters?

3. Packmasters cannot have champion, standard or musician. The
option is currently available when it should not be.

Is there someone that I can sent this to to get this rectified?
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1st - Sabrina: I'm not "Skrillboy" that is Colen :)
2nd - for best likelihood of getting response on bug reports please follow
the instructions posted on the bootup when you load the Warhammer files - my
email is listed there, in the FAQ, and in the information for each army file
(or at least most of them).
3rd - Thanks for your comments. I get them on the next pass.

Christepher McKenney
WFBv6 Armybuilder Files Manager
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:41:57 -0500
From: "Fallenhunter" <fallenhunter@neo.rr.com>
Subject: Re: asking about a background option

> >Could I suggest something?
> >
> >AB does not have to do the dithering, make it so that the person who
> >wrote the datafile did and have him mantain the images.
> >
> >*ducks the incoming anvil*
>
> Too bad about the machine-gun fire...

Yea, guess I should have wore the bullet proof vest as well.

>
> If you put the burden of doing picture on whoever does the datafiles,
> two things happen:
>
> 1) The person who does the datafiles has to know how to do it.

True, but its not really that hard to do. Once you have the right
tools, and have done it once.

> 2) The size of the distributed .ab file would quickly swell as people
> submitted images they wanted to use.

Well, it could also be a seperate download. As AB uses the fact that
the datafiles are fan generated, to avoid copyright (which I really
like), it would be hard for them to offically support the images
themselves, or release them. Thus my suggestion.

>
> Having selectable pictures is fine. If I have to actually do anything
> about them, that's not fine. :)
>
You could alwasy sucker... err... request help from someone who does
this type of work, I am sure there is an artist somewhere that uses
the program and would be willing to donate some times to the cause.

I know your already overworked, and your doing a damn fine job of it.
While I cannot draw a straight line without a ruler, even on the
computer. Applying filters and the like is something I could do, if
provided with the orginal artwork (thats copyright free of course).
Thats all (from how I understand the process) thats really required.
I use paint shop pro, and The GIMP and either one can handle the
watermark making. I think.

Yes, consider this an offer to help, at least until you find someone
better, if this comes to pass.




Fallenhunter
"They know you have the information they want, question is when will they find you."
Overheard at a bar in the Corbia sector.



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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 20:20:29 +0000
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: asking about a background option

At 13:41 07/03/2001 -0500, you wrote:

> > 2) The size of the distributed .ab file would quickly swell as people
> > submitted images they wanted to use.
>
>Well, it could also be a seperate download. As AB uses the fact that
>the datafiles are fan generated, to avoid copyright (which I really
>like), it would be hard for them to offically support the images
>themselves, or release them. Thus my suggestion.

If they're going to be a separate download, then why not just let anybody
do them? You'd have to assume competence on the users part, but you need to
do that anyway :)



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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:31:02 -0500
From: "Fallenhunter" <fallenhunter@neo.rr.com>
Subject: Re: asking about a background option

On 7 Mar 2001, at 20:20, Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister wrote:

> At 13:41 07/03/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>
> > > 2) The size of the distributed .ab file would quickly swell as
> > > people submitted images they wanted to use.
> >
> >Well, it could also be a seperate download. As AB uses the fact that
> >the datafiles are fan generated, to avoid copyright (which I really
> >like), it would be hard for them to offically support the images
> >themselves, or release them. Thus my suggestion.
>
> If they're going to be a separate download, then why not just let
> anybody do them? You'd have to assume competence on the users part,
> but you need to do that anyway :)
>

I support computer users, and maintain systems for a living. The one
thing you can count on, and the only thing you can, is that users
have no cometence at all. For any given task. That said, the more
difficult jobs are best left to those who know what they are doing.
As I said, I would do it, until you find someone better.

I was refering to a seperate add on package, possibly one for each
race within the datafile, or maybe one for the whole datafile.
Adding on to the list would be as easy as adding a file to the zip or
directory. You would be able to have the more advanced users help you
out and add to it, without requiring that the novice users be able to
convert the pictures.

Of course, it might be similar just to have a link from the same
places that have the datafiles to the place where the pictures are
stored. (IE: an indepentant maintainer, and project).

Takes the heat off you that way.



Fallenhunter
"They know you have the information they want, question is when will they find you."
Overheard at a bar in the Corbia sector.



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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:05:47 -0000
From: extremezen@hotmail.com
Subject: 40k: Dark Eldar Shadow

Not sure this was mentioned before but would it be possible to have
the Shadow from the Citadel Journal added to the 40k data file?



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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:10:49 +0000
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: 40k: Dark Eldar Shadow

At 23:05 07/03/2001 +0000, you wrote:
> Not sure this was mentioned before but would it be possible to have
>the Shadow from the Citadel Journal added to the 40k data file?

It's already there, under "Citadel Journal Tanks" in the Allies combobox.



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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 00:41:27 -0000
From: "D K" <extremezen@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 40k: Dark Eldar Shadow

Doh!! And I thought I would never be one of those guys.... :(

>From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
>It's already there, under "Citadel Journal Tanks" in the Allies combobox.

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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:25:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Matthew Weaver <m_weave@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Tyranid Army Builder

Follow this link, you should be able to download the
data file for 40k with 3/7/01 date

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ab-files/files/Warhammer 40,000 - 3rd Edition/


--- wh40kmaster2001@yahoo.com wrote:
> Where would I find this product? The new 40k thingy
>
> --- In armybuilder@y..., Matthew Weaver
> <m_weave@y...> wrote:
> >
> > --- wh40kmaster2001@y... wrote:
> > > When does the new tyraid come out for army
> builder
> > >
> > >
> >
> > As far as I know it is already included in the
> latest
> > version of the 40K file, check it out!
> >
> >
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