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Topics in this digest:

1. RE: Re: Dark Eldar Error (nope)
From: "DiPonio" <DiPonio@voyager.net>
2. Icons....double the pleasure?!?
From: "Richard Lonski" <richard.j2.lonski@mail.sprint.com>
3. stargrounts 2
From: sspicer1@mediaone.net
4. Army Builder problem
From: "Mike Gatewood" <banky10@usa.net>
5. Re: Re: Dark Eldar Error (nope)
From: Mathias Gehl <mgehl@home.com>
6. Re: Dark Eldar Error (nope)
From: ice_age@hotmail.com
7. RE: Re: Dark Eldar Error (nope)
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
8. Re: Icons....double the pleasure?!?
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
9. Re: Army Builder problem
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
10. RE: Re: Dark Eldar Error (nope)
From: "DiPonio" <DiPonio@voyager.net>
11. RE: Re: Dark Eldar Error (nope)
From: "DiPonio" <DiPonio@voyager.net>
12. RE: Re: Dark Eldar Error (nope)
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
13. RE: Re: Dark Eldar Error (nope)
From: "DiPonio" <DiPonio@voyager.net>
14. Re: Dark Eldar Error (nope)
From: ice_age@hotmail.com
15. Question about glob:
From: "Russell Sparkes" <rjs@inorbit.com>
16. Scenarios
From: "Dieter Passchier" <Dieter.Passchier@Embdena.de>


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:13:04 -0500
From: "DiPonio" <DiPonio@voyager.net>
Subject: RE: Re: Dark Eldar Error (nope)

So the reaver jetbike adds +2 to your save? Because on that train of
thought, the reaver jetbike riders will start with a 6 save because they are
wyches, meaning a 6 save, and the reaver jetbike makes them a 4 save, so
that is +2.

Ok, can we have the reaver jetbike entry adjusted to reflect the +2 save?

=]
Paul


-----Original Message-----
From: ice_age@hotmail.com [mailto:ice_age@hotmail.com]


Incubi don't have the +1 Strength for Punishers permanently added
into their statline because you can field Incubi with Shredders and
Blasters, as well as the Incubi Master with whatever you want.
Hellions always come with skyboards, so the improvement is figured
in. The Hellion save is 5+.

Keith Hann


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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 16:53:04 -0000
From: "Richard Lonski" <richard.j2.lonski@mail.sprint.com>
Subject: Icons....double the pleasure?!?

Just a question.....

When building a Chaos army, Armybuilder allows my to take a retinue
with Cypher. As part of the retinue, I can upgrade one model to an
Aspiring Champion. When I add wargear to the Aspiring Champion, I can
make him an Icon Bearer and add a Chaos Icon of whatever Mark of Chaso
I have given him. This means that I can have 2 banners in my army (1
with the HQ and one with Cypher).

Is this legal? I have found nothing to say it isn't, but it just
doesn't seems right.



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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 18:32:36 -0000
From: sspicer1@mediaone.net
Subject: stargrounts 2

does any body have a data file for stargrunts 2 from ground zeroe
games



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 19:36:21 -0000
From: "Mike Gatewood" <banky10@usa.net>
Subject: Army Builder problem

I was wondering if anyone could help me. I downloaded the AB WFB 6th
editon data file from skrill as well as from here and I got the
following error when I tried to run it.

Faild to load data files for following reason
Error Parsing attributes for Following Race [empire]
[olmt:type?-emcount=0u-max-msg-=emmsg3-model<=e-itsy pe=!count]






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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 12:40:28 -0800
From: Mathias Gehl <mgehl@home.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Dark Eldar Error (nope)

DiPonio wrote:

> So the reaver jetbike adds +2 to your save? Because on that train of
> thought, the reaver jetbike riders will start with a 6 save because they are
> wyches, meaning a 6 save, and the reaver jetbike makes them a 4 save, so
> that is +2.
>
> Ok, can we have the reaver jetbike entry adjusted to reflect the +2 save?
>
> =]
> Paul
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ice_age@hotmail.com [mailto:ice_age@hotmail.com]
>
>
> Incubi don't have the +1 Strength for Punishers permanently added
> into their statline because you can field Incubi with Shredders and
> Blasters, as well as the Incubi Master with whatever you want.
> Hellions always come with skyboards, so the improvement is figured
> in. The Hellion save is 5+.
>
> Keith Hann
>
>
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Actually, Reaver jetbikes give a 4+ save, not a +2 save (This is how
Colen wrote the files).

Mathias Gehl
mgehl@home.com



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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:12:56 -0000
From: ice_age@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Dark Eldar Error (nope)

--- In armybuilder@egroups.com, Mathias Gehl <mgehl@h...> wrote:
> DiPonio wrote:
>
> > So the reaver jetbike adds +2 to your save? Because on that
train of
> > thought, the reaver jetbike riders will start with a 6 save
because they are
> > wyches, meaning a 6 save, and the reaver jetbike makes them a 4
save, so
> > that is +2.
> >
> > Ok, can we have the reaver jetbike entry adjusted to reflect the
+2 save?
> >
> > =]

That's a good point. At the commoragh egroup we emailed Gav Thorpe
with a few questions on various DE stuff, and he replied. Here's the
question, and answer:

"2. Because the Hellions are so much better armored than regular
wyches many people are wondering if the bonus to their save from the
Hellion Skyboard has already been added or if this was missed.

It's already included, but we forgot to mention this."

As far as I know, it seems to be GW's policy to include any permanent
staline bonuses in the profile. Anyone know of an example where this
isn't the case?

We also managed to get a nice fat e-mail out of Jervis clarifying how
the webway portal works.

Keith Hann




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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 15:19:09 +0000
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: RE: Re: Dark Eldar Error (nope)

At 08:13 08/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>So the reaver jetbike adds +2 to your save?

That's right.

>Because on that train of
>thought, the reaver jetbike riders will start with a 6 save because they are
>wyches, meaning a 6 save, and the reaver jetbike makes them a 4 save, so
>that is +2.

Yes.

>Ok, can we have the reaver jetbike entry adjusted to reflect the +2 save?

Um... it already has been?

Stop being difficult :P


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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 23:07:40 +0000
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Icons....double the pleasure?!?

At 16:53 08/01/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>Just a question.....
>
>When building a Chaos army, Armybuilder allows my to take a retinue
>with Cypher. As part of the retinue, I can upgrade one model to an
>Aspiring Champion. When I add wargear to the Aspiring Champion, I can
>make him an Icon Bearer and add a Chaos Icon of whatever Mark of Chaso
>I have given him. This means that I can have 2 banners in my army (1
>with the HQ and one with Cypher).
>
>Is this legal? I have found nothing to say it isn't, but it just
>doesn't seems right.

You have 2 retinues due to a special situation. There's nothing in the
rules about more than one Icon, so it's perfectly legal to have two if you
want. *shrug


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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 23:06:06 +0000
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Army Builder problem

At 19:36 08/01/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>I was wondering if anyone could help me. I downloaded the AB WFB 6th
>editon data file from skrill as well as from here and I got the
>following error when I tried to run it.
>
>Faild to load data files for following reason
>Error Parsing attributes for Following Race [empire]
>[olmt:type?-emcount=0u-max-msg-=emmsg3-model<=e-itsy pe=!count]

Spelling mistakes in obscure error messages aside, all you need to do is
upgrade your version of Army Builder. :)



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Email: demandred@skrill.org | Visit http://www.skrill.org/ today!
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 18:27:18 -0500
From: "DiPonio" <DiPonio@voyager.net>
Subject: RE: Re: Dark Eldar Error (nope)

The reaver jetbikes make no mention of giving any type of save. It only
states that if you turbo boost, then your save is invulnerable.

So, upon looking at that, the reaver jetbike should not give the archon
riding it a +1 to his save. The statline would look more like 5(I) or
something. To reflect that it becomes invulnerable when he turbo boosts.

Thanks,
Paul

*difficult switch turn off feedback...sorry*

-----Original Message-----
From: Mathias Gehl [mailto:mgehl@home.com]

DiPonio wrote:

> So the reaver jetbike adds +2 to your save? Because on that train of
> thought, the reaver jetbike riders will start with a 6 save because they
are
> wyches, meaning a 6 save, and the reaver jetbike makes them a 4 save, so
> that is +2.
>
> Ok, can we have the reaver jetbike entry adjusted to reflect the +2 save?
>
> =]
> Paul
>
>


Actually, Reaver jetbikes give a 4+ save, not a +2 save (This is how
Colen wrote the files).

Mathias Gehl
mgehl@home.com





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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 18:27:18 -0500
From: "DiPonio" <DiPonio@voyager.net>
Subject: RE: Re: Dark Eldar Error (nope)

My bad....*turns off difficult switch*

I LOVE YOUR DATA FILES COLIN!!!!!!!!!!

=D


-----Original Message-----
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister [mailto:demandred@skrill.org]

Um... it already has been?

Stop being difficult :P


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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 23:45:51 +0000
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: RE: Re: Dark Eldar Error (nope)

At 18:27 08/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>The reaver jetbikes make no mention of giving any type of save. It only
>states that if you turbo boost, then your save is invulnerable.
>
>So, upon looking at that, the reaver jetbike should not give the archon
>riding it a +1 to his save. The statline would look more like 5(I) or
>something. To reflect that it becomes invulnerable when he turbo boosts.

IIRC, didn't GW say "Oh yeah, Reaver jetbikes should give a +1 save?"


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Email: demandred@skrill.org | Visit http://www.skrill.org/ today!
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 18:50:50 -0500
From: "DiPonio" <DiPonio@voyager.net>
Subject: RE: Re: Dark Eldar Error (nope)

Cool....don't suppose anyone knows where I will be able to find this?

Thanks again Colin =I



-----Original Message-----
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister [mailto:demandred@skrill.org]

At 18:27 08/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>The reaver jetbikes make no mention of giving any type of save. It only
>states that if you turbo boost, then your save is invulnerable.
>
>So, upon looking at that, the reaver jetbike should not give the archon
>riding it a +1 to his save. The statline would look more like 5(I) or
>something. To reflect that it becomes invulnerable when he turbo boosts.

IIRC, didn't GW say "Oh yeah, Reaver jetbikes should give a +1 save?"


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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 02:51:20 -0000
From: ice_age@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Dark Eldar Error (nope)

--- In armybuilder@egroups.com, Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister
<demandred@s...> wrote:
> At 18:27 08/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> >The reaver jetbikes make no mention of giving any type of save.
It only
> >states that if you turbo boost, then your save is invulnerable.
> >
> >So, upon looking at that, the reaver jetbike should not give the
archon
> >riding it a +1 to his save. The statline would look more like 5
(I) or
> >something. To reflect that it becomes invulnerable when he turbo
boosts.
>
> IIRC, didn't GW say "Oh yeah, Reaver jetbikes should give a +1
save?"

Not in any Chapter Approved or GW FAQ. Nothing from any unofficial
source either. GW did state that the jetbikes give +1 Strength to
all riders (factored into the Reaver's profile already), but
accidentally left that piece of info out of the DE dex, and that
might be what you're recalling.

Keith Hann



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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 04:10:00 -0000
From: "Russell Sparkes" <rjs@inorbit.com>
Subject: Question about glob:

(sorry if this appears twice - the first one wasn't quite complete :)

I'm using glob:cost on a heap of options combined with lglx:race=??
so that units taken as allies or mercenaries can have the appropriate
options assigned to them. Each of these units can also have leaders
assigned which must take the same option, so the glob also applies to
the leaders. The Leaders are set up to mirr: each of the options,
however I want the link type to be auto, not cost. The Leaders have
each of the options linked in (via a clon option) as type auto.

The strange thing is, some of the options on the Leader are appearing
in Army Builder as if they were linked via cost and others as if via
auto. Even wierder, if I pick two diffferent units, add a leader to
each unit then check the available options for each leader - the link
natures aren't consistent between the two (yet they use the same unit
to clon from)!

Is there some degree of random link order associated with glob?
It seems that in some instances, the glob link is overriding the clon
link type, yet in others it isn't and it appears somewhat random... I
have noticed that its NOT random for the same unit type (ie. if I add
a unit and leader twice, I get the same mix of link types for both)

Any ideas? Is it just another stupid thing I'm doing?

Thanks,
Russell.
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 08:12:09 +0100
From: "Dieter Passchier" <Dieter.Passchier@Embdena.de>
Subject: Scenarios

Hello!

Is it possible to integrate the four poblished scenarios into the files for
Warhammer Fantasy? I know they were written for 5th edition but would be
helpful none the less.

Thanks,

Dieter



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