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There are 16 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: 2 small catachans bugs
From: yoda@cox.rr.com
2. Re: Re: 2 small catachans bugs
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
3. RE: Re: GW Version of Computer Army Creator for Space Marines
From: "Don Freels" <orcus@foothill.net>
4. Re: Re: GW Version of Computer Army Creator for Space Marines
From: "marc" <marc@marc.homechoice.co.uk>
5. Void Files
From: "Phil Walling" <Phil@wallingp.freeserve.co.uk>
6. Other Games
From: "Phil Walling" <Phil@wallingp.freeserve.co.uk>
7. Re: Void Files
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
8. Re: Other Games
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
9. Re: Other Games
From: trent <felix@medford.net>
10. RE: Other Games
From: "Phil Walling" <Phil@wallingp.freeserve.co.uk>
11. RE: Other Games
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
12. Re: 2 small catachans bugs
From: yoda@cox.rr.com
13. Re: Other Games
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
14. AW: Other Games
From: "Dieter Passchier" <Dieter.Passchier@Embdena.de>
15. Re: Other Games
From: David Wyatt-Millington <xaxier_uk@yahoo.co.uk>
16. Re: Re: 2 small catachans bugs
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:31:30 -0000
From: yoda@cox.rr.com
Subject: Re: 2 small catachans bugs
I will be sending a question to GW UK for chlorination latter today
This is what the codex says the important part for Colonel `iron
hand' Staken
If you take him he replaces the officer in command of the army and
takes over the command hq. It does not say he re places the hole hq
command squad. So the army should have him and the command squad. The
file will not let you take him and a command hq squad. When the codex
says other wise.
This is what the codex says the important part for Sly marbo. He
counts as one of your sniper choices. He is not a command choice. The
file trys to say he is command for the army when the codex says other
wise.
--- In armybuilder@egroups.com, Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister
<demandred@s...> wrote:
> At 17:52 11/12/00 +0000, you wrote:
> >Colonel `iron hand' straken does not take out your HQ squad. He
> >replace the officer in the command hq.
>
> This is working fine ATM...
>
> >Sly marbo. Is not in the command . he counts as one sniper choices.
>
> This is currently working fine... what's the problem with these two?
>
>
>
> --
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:31:02 +0000
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Re: 2 small catachans bugs
At 17:31 13/12/2000 +0000, you wrote:
>I will be sending a question to GW UK for chlorination latter today
>
>This is what the codex says the important part for Colonel `iron
>hand' Staken
>If you take him he replaces the officer in command of the army and
>takes over the command hq. It does not say he re places the hole hq
>command squad. So the army should have him and the command squad. The
>file will not let you take him and a command hq squad. When the codex
>says other wise.
Take Colonel Straken. What's that attached to him? Why, it's a command
section.
>This is what the codex says the important part for Sly marbo. He
>counts as one of your sniper choices. He is not a command choice. The
>file trys to say he is command for the army when the codex says other
>wise.
Nowhere does the file say he's a command choice... he can either be taken
as an Elites on his own, or as a child of a Sniper unit.
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 12:56:34 -0800
From: "Don Freels" <orcus@foothill.net>
Subject: RE: Re: GW Version of Computer Army Creator for Space Marines
You must be joking, GW is calling their program "Space Marine
Interactive Armybuilder?" With all the creativity available to GW that's the
best they could do!What a slap in the face for all of us, what a joke. They
should be liable to suffer some type of penalty for ripping off someone
elses idea, but I doubt they will suffer at all. It is more likely that GW
was very careful and legally has a leg to stand on in court.I have not seen
the product yet, so I am unsure as to how close it is to the original" Army
Builder." But judging from the name itself ,I fear the worst.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: yoda@cox.rr.com [mailto:yoda@cox.rr.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 1:26 AM
> To: armybuilder@egroups.com
> Subject: [AB] Re: GW Version of Computer Army Creator for Space Marines
>
>
> i founfd info here
> http://www.blacklibrary.co.uk/40kinteractive/index.htm
>
> --- In armybuilder@egroups.com, extremezen@h... wrote:
> > Well Rob's product is called "Army Builder" and games workshop's
> > product is called "Space Marine Interactive Army Builder". While
> not
> > exactly the same title I can how this could cause some "confusion"
> > issues.
> > Hopefully the product itself is different enough that GW does
> gain
> > customers from the great reputation and product that Rob has put
> out.
> >
> > --- In armybuilder@egroups.com, "Brad Morgan" <B-Morgan@c...> wrote:
> > > An army builder and ArmyBuilder are different. I not a lawyer so
> I
> > don't
> > > know if Army Builder and ArmyBuilder are considered the same or
> > different.
> > >
> > > I'm disappointed in Games Workshop for even starting this war
> > because if
> > > there is a legal issue here, I can almost guarantee that the only
> > people
> > > that will get rich are the lawyers.
> > >
> > > Good Luck,
> > >
> > > Brad armybuilder-unsubscribe@egroups.com
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>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:06:49 -0000
From: "marc" <marc@marc.homechoice.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Re: GW Version of Computer Army Creator for Space Marines
I've seen and used the GW Army builder, apart from the fact it's incredibly
limited, all it is is some fancy ass graphics, it's a pain in the ass to
use, and no where near as user friendly as the real army builder.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Freels" <orcus@foothill.net>
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 8:56 PM
Subject: RE: [AB] Re: GW Version of Computer Army Creator for Space Marines
> You must be joking, GW is calling their program "Space Marine
> Interactive Armybuilder?" With all the creativity available to GW that's
the
> best they could do!What a slap in the face for all of us, what a joke.
They
> should be liable to suffer some type of penalty for ripping off someone
> elses idea, but I doubt they will suffer at all. It is more likely that GW
> was very careful and legally has a leg to stand on in court.I have not
seen
> the product yet, so I am unsure as to how close it is to the original"
Army
> Builder." But judging from the name itself ,I fear the worst.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: yoda@cox.rr.com [mailto:yoda@cox.rr.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 1:26 AM
> > To: armybuilder@egroups.com
> > Subject: [AB] Re: GW Version of Computer Army Creator for Space Marines
> >
> >
> > i founfd info here
> > http://www.blacklibrary.co.uk/40kinteractive/index.htm
> >
> > --- In armybuilder@egroups.com, extremezen@h... wrote:
> > > Well Rob's product is called "Army Builder" and games workshop's
> > > product is called "Space Marine Interactive Army Builder". While
> > not
> > > exactly the same title I can how this could cause some "confusion"
> > > issues.
> > > Hopefully the product itself is different enough that GW does
> > gain
> > > customers from the great reputation and product that Rob has put
> > out.
> > >
> > > --- In armybuilder@egroups.com, "Brad Morgan" <B-Morgan@c...> wrote:
> > > > An army builder and ArmyBuilder are different. I not a lawyer so
> > I
> > > don't
> > > > know if Army Builder and ArmyBuilder are considered the same or
> > > different.
> > > >
> > > > I'm disappointed in Games Workshop for even starting this war
> > > because if
> > > > there is a legal issue here, I can almost guarantee that the only
> > > people
> > > > that will get rich are the lawyers.
> > > >
> > > > Good Luck,
> > > >
> > > > Brad armybuilder-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, email
> >
> > armybuilder-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> >
> >
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:35:13 -0000
From: "Phil Walling" <Phil@wallingp.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Void Files
Hi Colen
I've just had a quick look at the Void files everything seems to be OK.
I think that Battles with Minatures is due over the next few days (need to
confirm with Andy Leask), so there will be more units to add!
That said if you are stuck for time I can do them over Christmas if you
like, 10 days off work yeahey.
Phil
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:37:11 -0000
From: "Phil Walling" <Phil@wallingp.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Other Games
Hi,
Has anyone used Army Builder in conjunction with any Role Playing Games?
I am currently putting together a data file for Vampire the Masquerade, as
there are no random rolls in Vampire character creation AB lends itself
quite well.
Phil
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:45:08 +0000
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Void Files
At 22:35 13/12/2000 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi Colen
>
>
>I've just had a quick look at the Void files everything seems to be OK.
>
>I think that Battles with Minatures is due over the next few days (need to
>confirm with Andy Leask), so there will be more units to add!
>That said if you are stuck for time I can do them over Christmas if you
>like, 10 days off work yeahey.
I've got the month off from University - working 9 hours a week at work
now. Fantastic
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:45:43 +0000
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Other Games
At 22:37 13/12/2000 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Has anyone used Army Builder in conjunction with any Role Playing Games?
>
>I am currently putting together a data file for Vampire the Masquerade, as
>there are no random rolls in Vampire character creation AB lends itself
>quite well.
Nothing that I'm aware of. What sort of things would you need to track?
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:50:28 -0800
From: trent <felix@medford.net>
Subject: Re: Other Games
Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister wrote:
>> Has anyone used Army Builder in conjunction with any Role Playing Games?
>>
>> I am currently putting together a data file for Vampire the Masquerade, as
>> there are no random rolls in Vampire character creation AB lends itself
>> quite well.
>
> Nothing that I'm aware of. What sort of things would you need to track?
Generation, traits, equipment, flaws, diciplines... I think it would
lend it self to AB very well...
trent
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:49:44 -0000
From: "Phil Walling" <Phil@wallingp.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Other Games
>>>Nothing that I'm aware of. What sort of things would you need to track?
With Vampire - Experience Points, Humanity, Paths, Blood Pool. I also plan
to create a campaign section (don't know how yet, but i'll suss it out).
Phil
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 23:05:36 +0000
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: RE: Other Games
At 22:49 13/12/2000 +0000, you wrote:
> >>>Nothing that I'm aware of. What sort of things would you need to track?
>
>With Vampire - Experience Points, Humanity, Paths, Blood Pool. I also plan
>to create a campaign section (don't know how yet, but i'll suss it out).
There seem to be one or two of you interested in it... why not hack
something up between you?
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 03:45:24 -0000
From: yoda@cox.rr.com
Subject: Re: 2 small catachans bugs
this is what it says when you have both specail charaters.
Your army must have one general / commander / or what ever in your
army.
--- In armybuilder@egroups.com, Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister
<demandred@s...> wrote:
> At 17:31 13/12/2000 +0000, you wrote:
>
> >I will be sending a question to GW UK for chlorination latter today
> >
> >This is what the codex says the important part for Colonel `iron
> >hand' Staken
> >If you take him he replaces the officer in command of the army and
> >takes over the command hq. It does not say he re places the hole hq
> >command squad. So the army should have him and the command squad.
The
> >file will not let you take him and a command hq squad. When the
codex
> >says other wise.
>
> Take Colonel Straken. What's that attached to him? Why, it's a
command
> section.
>
> >This is what the codex says the important part for Sly marbo. He
> >counts as one of your sniper choices. He is not a command choice.
The
> >file trys to say he is command for the army when the codex says
other
> >wise.
>
> Nowhere does the file say he's a command choice... he can either be
taken
> as an Elites on his own, or as a child of a Sniper unit.
>
>
> --
> 'Not Colin' McAlister - License to Skrill
> Email: demandred@s... | Visit http://www.skrill.org/ today!
> -----------------------------+------------------------------------
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:52:09 -0800
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
Subject: Re: Other Games
AB's primary limitation with RPGs is its output. The output of AB is
designed for a roster of units or at least a set of characters (e.g.
Mordheim warbands). If you expect to make serious use of AB for Vampire,
you will probably want to make use of AB's XML output. This way, you can
take the output from AB and generate true character sheets from it.
Otherwise, I think AB would work well for Vampire.
Hope this helps,
Rob
At 10:37 PM 12/13/00 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Has anyone used Army Builder in conjunction with any Role Playing Games?
>
>I am currently putting together a data file for Vampire the Masquerade, as
>there are no random rolls in Vampire character creation AB lends itself
>quite well.
>
>
>Phil
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:34:58 +0100
From: "Dieter Passchier" <Dieter.Passchier@Embdena.de>
Subject: AW: Other Games
I thought about using it for Warhammer Fantasy Role Playing, but didn´t have
the time to think about it thoroughly.
Any help would be welcome,
Dieter
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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Dezember 2000 23:37
An: armybuilder@egroups.com
Betreff: [AB] Other Games
Hi,
Has anyone used Army Builder in conjunction with any Role Playing Games?
I am currently putting together a data file for Vampire the Masquerade, as
there are no random rolls in Vampire character creation AB lends itself
quite well.
Phil
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:27:51 +0000 (GMT)
From: David Wyatt-Millington <xaxier_uk@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Other Games
I would be interested in seeing the results for that.
What are u setting up to be able to do.
--- Phil Walling <Phil@wallingp.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote: > Hi,
>
> Has anyone used Army Builder in conjunction with any
> Role Playing Games?
>
> I am currently putting together a data file for
> Vampire the Masquerade, as
> there are no random rolls in Vampire character
> creation AB lends itself
> quite well.
>
>
> Phil
>
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:03:11 +0000
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Re: 2 small catachans bugs
At 03:45 14/12/2000 +0000, you wrote:
>this is what it says when you have both specail charaters.
>Your army must have one general / commander / or what ever in your
>army.
Ah, *that* sort of commander. OK, fixed. Sorry
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There are 16 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: 2 small catachans bugs
From: yoda@cox.rr.com
2. Re: Re: 2 small catachans bugs
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
3. RE: Re: GW Version of Computer Army Creator for Space Marines
From: "Don Freels" <orcus@foothill.net>
4. Re: Re: GW Version of Computer Army Creator for Space Marines
From: "marc" <marc@marc.homechoice.co.uk>
5. Void Files
From: "Phil Walling" <Phil@wallingp.freeserve.co.uk>
6. Other Games
From: "Phil Walling" <Phil@wallingp.freeserve.co.uk>
7. Re: Void Files
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
8. Re: Other Games
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
9. Re: Other Games
From: trent <felix@medford.net>
10. RE: Other Games
From: "Phil Walling" <Phil@wallingp.freeserve.co.uk>
11. RE: Other Games
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
12. Re: 2 small catachans bugs
From: yoda@cox.rr.com
13. Re: Other Games
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
14. AW: Other Games
From: "Dieter Passchier" <Dieter.Passchier@Embdena.de>
15. Re: Other Games
From: David Wyatt-Millington <xaxier_uk@yahoo.co.uk>
16. Re: Re: 2 small catachans bugs
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:31:30 -0000
From: yoda@cox.rr.com
Subject: Re: 2 small catachans bugs
I will be sending a question to GW UK for chlorination latter today
This is what the codex says the important part for Colonel `iron
hand' Staken
If you take him he replaces the officer in command of the army and
takes over the command hq. It does not say he re places the hole hq
command squad. So the army should have him and the command squad. The
file will not let you take him and a command hq squad. When the codex
says other wise.
This is what the codex says the important part for Sly marbo. He
counts as one of your sniper choices. He is not a command choice. The
file trys to say he is command for the army when the codex says other
wise.
--- In armybuilder@egroups.com, Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister
<demandred@s...> wrote:
> At 17:52 11/12/00 +0000, you wrote:
> >Colonel `iron hand' straken does not take out your HQ squad. He
> >replace the officer in the command hq.
>
> This is working fine ATM...
>
> >Sly marbo. Is not in the command . he counts as one sniper choices.
>
> This is currently working fine... what's the problem with these two?
>
>
>
> --
> 'Not Colin' McAlister - License to Skrill
> Email: demandred@s... | Visit http://www.skrill.org/ today!
> -----------------------------+------------------------------------
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:31:02 +0000
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Re: 2 small catachans bugs
At 17:31 13/12/2000 +0000, you wrote:
>I will be sending a question to GW UK for chlorination latter today
>
>This is what the codex says the important part for Colonel `iron
>hand' Staken
>If you take him he replaces the officer in command of the army and
>takes over the command hq. It does not say he re places the hole hq
>command squad. So the army should have him and the command squad. The
>file will not let you take him and a command hq squad. When the codex
>says other wise.
Take Colonel Straken. What's that attached to him? Why, it's a command
section.
>This is what the codex says the important part for Sly marbo. He
>counts as one of your sniper choices. He is not a command choice. The
>file trys to say he is command for the army when the codex says other
>wise.
Nowhere does the file say he's a command choice... he can either be taken
as an Elites on his own, or as a child of a Sniper unit.
--
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Email: demandred@skrill.org | Visit http://www.skrill.org/ today!
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 12:56:34 -0800
From: "Don Freels" <orcus@foothill.net>
Subject: RE: Re: GW Version of Computer Army Creator for Space Marines
You must be joking, GW is calling their program "Space Marine
Interactive Armybuilder?" With all the creativity available to GW that's the
best they could do!What a slap in the face for all of us, what a joke. They
should be liable to suffer some type of penalty for ripping off someone
elses idea, but I doubt they will suffer at all. It is more likely that GW
was very careful and legally has a leg to stand on in court.I have not seen
the product yet, so I am unsure as to how close it is to the original" Army
Builder." But judging from the name itself ,I fear the worst.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: yoda@cox.rr.com [mailto:yoda@cox.rr.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 1:26 AM
> To: armybuilder@egroups.com
> Subject: [AB] Re: GW Version of Computer Army Creator for Space Marines
>
>
> i founfd info here
> http://www.blacklibrary.co.uk/40kinteractive/index.htm
>
> --- In armybuilder@egroups.com, extremezen@h... wrote:
> > Well Rob's product is called "Army Builder" and games workshop's
> > product is called "Space Marine Interactive Army Builder". While
> not
> > exactly the same title I can how this could cause some "confusion"
> > issues.
> > Hopefully the product itself is different enough that GW does
> gain
> > customers from the great reputation and product that Rob has put
> out.
> >
> > --- In armybuilder@egroups.com, "Brad Morgan" <B-Morgan@c...> wrote:
> > > An army builder and ArmyBuilder are different. I not a lawyer so
> I
> > don't
> > > know if Army Builder and ArmyBuilder are considered the same or
> > different.
> > >
> > > I'm disappointed in Games Workshop for even starting this war
> > because if
> > > there is a legal issue here, I can almost guarantee that the only
> > people
> > > that will get rich are the lawyers.
> > >
> > > Good Luck,
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:06:49 -0000
From: "marc" <marc@marc.homechoice.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Re: GW Version of Computer Army Creator for Space Marines
I've seen and used the GW Army builder, apart from the fact it's incredibly
limited, all it is is some fancy ass graphics, it's a pain in the ass to
use, and no where near as user friendly as the real army builder.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Freels" <orcus@foothill.net>
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 8:56 PM
Subject: RE: [AB] Re: GW Version of Computer Army Creator for Space Marines
> You must be joking, GW is calling their program "Space Marine
> Interactive Armybuilder?" With all the creativity available to GW that's
the
> best they could do!What a slap in the face for all of us, what a joke.
They
> should be liable to suffer some type of penalty for ripping off someone
> elses idea, but I doubt they will suffer at all. It is more likely that GW
> was very careful and legally has a leg to stand on in court.I have not
seen
> the product yet, so I am unsure as to how close it is to the original"
Army
> Builder." But judging from the name itself ,I fear the worst.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: yoda@cox.rr.com [mailto:yoda@cox.rr.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 1:26 AM
> > To: armybuilder@egroups.com
> > Subject: [AB] Re: GW Version of Computer Army Creator for Space Marines
> >
> >
> > i founfd info here
> > http://www.blacklibrary.co.uk/40kinteractive/index.htm
> >
> > --- In armybuilder@egroups.com, extremezen@h... wrote:
> > > Well Rob's product is called "Army Builder" and games workshop's
> > > product is called "Space Marine Interactive Army Builder". While
> > not
> > > exactly the same title I can how this could cause some "confusion"
> > > issues.
> > > Hopefully the product itself is different enough that GW does
> > gain
> > > customers from the great reputation and product that Rob has put
> > out.
> > >
> > > --- In armybuilder@egroups.com, "Brad Morgan" <B-Morgan@c...> wrote:
> > > > An army builder and ArmyBuilder are different. I not a lawyer so
> > I
> > > don't
> > > > know if Army Builder and ArmyBuilder are considered the same or
> > > different.
> > > >
> > > > I'm disappointed in Games Workshop for even starting this war
> > > because if
> > > > there is a legal issue here, I can almost guarantee that the only
> > > people
> > > > that will get rich are the lawyers.
> > > >
> > > > Good Luck,
> > > >
> > > > Brad armybuilder-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:35:13 -0000
From: "Phil Walling" <Phil@wallingp.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Void Files
Hi Colen
I've just had a quick look at the Void files everything seems to be OK.
I think that Battles with Minatures is due over the next few days (need to
confirm with Andy Leask), so there will be more units to add!
That said if you are stuck for time I can do them over Christmas if you
like, 10 days off work yeahey.
Phil
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:37:11 -0000
From: "Phil Walling" <Phil@wallingp.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Other Games
Hi,
Has anyone used Army Builder in conjunction with any Role Playing Games?
I am currently putting together a data file for Vampire the Masquerade, as
there are no random rolls in Vampire character creation AB lends itself
quite well.
Phil
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:45:08 +0000
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Void Files
At 22:35 13/12/2000 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi Colen
>
>
>I've just had a quick look at the Void files everything seems to be OK.
>
>I think that Battles with Minatures is due over the next few days (need to
>confirm with Andy Leask), so there will be more units to add!
>That said if you are stuck for time I can do them over Christmas if you
>like, 10 days off work yeahey.
I've got the month off from University - working 9 hours a week at work
now. Fantastic
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:45:43 +0000
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Other Games
At 22:37 13/12/2000 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Has anyone used Army Builder in conjunction with any Role Playing Games?
>
>I am currently putting together a data file for Vampire the Masquerade, as
>there are no random rolls in Vampire character creation AB lends itself
>quite well.
Nothing that I'm aware of. What sort of things would you need to track?
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:50:28 -0800
From: trent <felix@medford.net>
Subject: Re: Other Games
Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister wrote:
>> Has anyone used Army Builder in conjunction with any Role Playing Games?
>>
>> I am currently putting together a data file for Vampire the Masquerade, as
>> there are no random rolls in Vampire character creation AB lends itself
>> quite well.
>
> Nothing that I'm aware of. What sort of things would you need to track?
Generation, traits, equipment, flaws, diciplines... I think it would
lend it self to AB very well...
trent
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:49:44 -0000
From: "Phil Walling" <Phil@wallingp.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Other Games
>>>Nothing that I'm aware of. What sort of things would you need to track?
With Vampire - Experience Points, Humanity, Paths, Blood Pool. I also plan
to create a campaign section (don't know how yet, but i'll suss it out).
Phil
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 23:05:36 +0000
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: RE: Other Games
At 22:49 13/12/2000 +0000, you wrote:
> >>>Nothing that I'm aware of. What sort of things would you need to track?
>
>With Vampire - Experience Points, Humanity, Paths, Blood Pool. I also plan
>to create a campaign section (don't know how yet, but i'll suss it out).
There seem to be one or two of you interested in it... why not hack
something up between you?
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 03:45:24 -0000
From: yoda@cox.rr.com
Subject: Re: 2 small catachans bugs
this is what it says when you have both specail charaters.
Your army must have one general / commander / or what ever in your
army.
--- In armybuilder@egroups.com, Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister
<demandred@s...> wrote:
> At 17:31 13/12/2000 +0000, you wrote:
>
> >I will be sending a question to GW UK for chlorination latter today
> >
> >This is what the codex says the important part for Colonel `iron
> >hand' Staken
> >If you take him he replaces the officer in command of the army and
> >takes over the command hq. It does not say he re places the hole hq
> >command squad. So the army should have him and the command squad.
The
> >file will not let you take him and a command hq squad. When the
codex
> >says other wise.
>
> Take Colonel Straken. What's that attached to him? Why, it's a
command
> section.
>
> >This is what the codex says the important part for Sly marbo. He
> >counts as one of your sniper choices. He is not a command choice.
The
> >file trys to say he is command for the army when the codex says
other
> >wise.
>
> Nowhere does the file say he's a command choice... he can either be
taken
> as an Elites on his own, or as a child of a Sniper unit.
>
>
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:52:09 -0800
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
Subject: Re: Other Games
AB's primary limitation with RPGs is its output. The output of AB is
designed for a roster of units or at least a set of characters (e.g.
Mordheim warbands). If you expect to make serious use of AB for Vampire,
you will probably want to make use of AB's XML output. This way, you can
take the output from AB and generate true character sheets from it.
Otherwise, I think AB would work well for Vampire.
Hope this helps,
Rob
At 10:37 PM 12/13/00 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Has anyone used Army Builder in conjunction with any Role Playing Games?
>
>I am currently putting together a data file for Vampire the Masquerade, as
>there are no random rolls in Vampire character creation AB lends itself
>quite well.
>
>
>Phil
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:34:58 +0100
From: "Dieter Passchier" <Dieter.Passchier@Embdena.de>
Subject: AW: Other Games
I thought about using it for Warhammer Fantasy Role Playing, but didn´t have
the time to think about it thoroughly.
Any help would be welcome,
Dieter
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An: armybuilder@egroups.com
Betreff: [AB] Other Games
Hi,
Has anyone used Army Builder in conjunction with any Role Playing Games?
I am currently putting together a data file for Vampire the Masquerade, as
there are no random rolls in Vampire character creation AB lends itself
quite well.
Phil
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:27:51 +0000 (GMT)
From: David Wyatt-Millington <xaxier_uk@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Other Games
I would be interested in seeing the results for that.
What are u setting up to be able to do.
--- Phil Walling <Phil@wallingp.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote: > Hi,
>
> Has anyone used Army Builder in conjunction with any
> Role Playing Games?
>
> I am currently putting together a data file for
> Vampire the Masquerade, as
> there are no random rolls in Vampire character
> creation AB lends itself
> quite well.
>
>
> Phil
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:03:11 +0000
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Re: 2 small catachans bugs
At 03:45 14/12/2000 +0000, you wrote:
>this is what it says when you have both specail charaters.
>Your army must have one general / commander / or what ever in your
>army.
Ah, *that* sort of commander. OK, fixed. Sorry
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