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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. v2.0 Gromril weapon bug
From: "Bill Le Chat" <gaius_octavius@usa.net>
2. GorkaMorka Files
From: fpnovy@uswest.net
3. Re: Salamanders Artificer Armour
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
4. Re: Hey Colen
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
5. Re: Re: Error in the Space Wolf files again...
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
6. Re: Re: Error in the Space Wolf files again...
From: "Jimi" <james.tubman@cableinet.co.uk>
7. Chaos Error -- Colen
From: "Matthius" <Mathius@ticnet.com>
8. RE: Salamanders Artificer Armour
From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com>
9. Command Squads and Wargear, was Re: Salamanders Artificer Armour
From: "Phil Groff" <philip@psych.utoronto.ca>
10. Re: v2.0 Gromril weapon bug
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
11. Re: Bug on switching game systems
From: "Phil Groff" <philip@psych.utoronto.ca>
12. Re: Bug on switching game systems
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
13. Re: Re: a REAL wolf guard error....
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
14. Re: Hey Colen
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
15. Re: Re: Salamanders
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
16. Re: Re: Salamanders
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
17. Re: Warhammer Fantasy - New files for new version versus old files?
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
18. Re: something Epicly different
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
19. Re: Problems with the Kult of Speed data file...........
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
20. Re: something Epicly different
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
21. Re: Re: Adeptus Mechanicus files
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
22. Re: Runepriest Question
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
23. Re: emperors champion.
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
24. Re: Hey Colen
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
25. Re: Problem: reading roster after up dating data files
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:23:18 -0000
From: "Bill Le Chat" <gaius_octavius@usa.net>
Subject: v2.0 Gromril weapon bug
Hello,
I've upgraded to Army Builder 2.0 and run a Reiklander warband in a
Mordheim campaign. I think that I've come across a bug either in
Army Builder or in the Mordheim files. I'm not sure where it is, so
I'll try to give as much information as possible (probably too much)
so that someone can fix the bug.
My warband came across a Gromril axe. I listed gave it to one of my
Youngbloods. I listed it by paying 5 g.c. for the axe and 15 g.c.
for the gromril weapon 'special equipment' for a total of 20 g.c., as
gromril weapons cost 4x the normal cost of a weapon.
I saved the warband and the next time I tried to re-open that warband
it gave the following error message: "Error reading data from roster
file." Sometimes when I tried to re-open it, I got this message and
it would then kick me back to the screen where I can chose to Create
or Load a roster, Import files. Other times, after I got the message
and clicked on "OK," it would try to open a new Dwarven
Treasurehunters warband. This lead me to believe that the gromril
weapon might be the problem.
So, I created and saved a new, stripped down Reiklander warband,
closed AB and reopened it and had no trouble loading the roster.
However, when I added the gromril weapon, saved the roster and tried
to close, re-open and reload the warband, I got the above error
message.
Is this really the problem? If so, can it be fixed?
Thanks,
Bill Le Chat
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:55:34 -0000
From: fpnovy@uswest.net
Subject: GorkaMorka Files
I try to get the Gorkmorka file to work with V2 and I got an Invalid
file message. Is there a V2 version for Gorkamorka?
Thank you
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:19:11 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Salamanders Artificer Armour
One fine day in the middle of the night, Shawn Campbell
<shawn@electricstitch.com> got up to write:
>Salamander Characters can have Artificer Armour for 15pts.
>
>When an HQ unit (Librarian, Chaplain, Commander, etc.) has a command squad
>he is _not_ an independent character, so should be allowed artificer armour
>for 15pts.
Whoa! IMAO this is reading far too much into the rules... why should a
Force Commander suddenly get cheaper Artificer Armour just because he
leads a command squad?
>I'm not sure how to edit this in. I'll probably look up Apothecaries and see
>how the 10pt/15pt terminator honours is dealt with.
If you really want to do it, create a second, cheaper artificer armour
option and use over: and more:.
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:19:37 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Hey Colen
One fine day in the middle of the night, doublenot7@aol.com got up to
write:
>I detachment of Catachan Devils may be taken by any IG army, I dont believe
>the Catachan Assault Squads may be taken by any other than Catachans.
IIRC it says they can in the front of the Catachan codex...
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:17:25 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Re: Error in the Space Wolf files again...
One fine day in the middle of the night, vaul@altavista.com got up to
write:
>Can you tell me where I can read the E-mail?
The Space Wolf mailing list, wherever that lives.
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 18:16:29 +0100
From: "Jimi" <james.tubman@cableinet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Re: Error in the Space Wolf files again...
> >Can you tell me where I can read the E-mail?
>
> The Space Wolf mailing list, wherever that lives.
On Egroups
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:20:56 -0500
From: "Matthius" <Mathius@ticnet.com>
Subject: Chaos Error -- Colen
Hey Colen,
There's an error in the Chaos datafiles for the bikers. It's listed has
having to take a minimum of 2 specials, instead of a maximum of 2. Just a
heads up. I fixed it in my file, but you may hear some screaming later from
others
hehe
Matt
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:24:49 -0700
From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com>
Subject: RE: Salamanders Artificer Armour
> >Salamander Characters can have Artificer Armour for 15pts.
> >
> >When an HQ unit (Librarian, Chaplain, Commander, etc.) has a
> command squad
> >he is _not_ an independent character, so should be allowed
> artificer armour
> >for 15pts.
>
> Whoa! IMAO this is reading far too much into the rules... why should a
> Force Commander suddenly get cheaper Artificer Armour just because he
> leads a command squad?
Actually, I didn't read far enough in... At the time I wrote that message, I
was under the impression that IC's could not take IC wargear if they were
accompanied by a command squad. I have since learned since then and now know
why the IC's pay more for their wargear.
I believe I found my answer in the Q&A.
Thanks,
Shawn Campbell
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 13:42:32 -0400
From: "Phil Groff" <philip@psych.utoronto.ca>
Subject: Command Squads and Wargear, was Re: Salamanders Artificer Armour
Hello all
Taking a command squad doesn't affect wargear choices! This is a common misconception about independent characters and wargear. What the line about "unless he takes a command squad..." means is that the character only functions as an independent character (i.e. being able to join squads, etc.) if he doesn't have a command squad. It doesn't affect wargear selection in any way. This has been clarified on several occasions. You can have a space marine commander in terminator armour leading a command squad in power armour, or one on a bike leading a squad on foot (though all that does is spoil his mobility by enforcing coherence).
Cheers,
Phil G.
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Subject: Re: [AB] Salamanders Artificer Armour
One fine day in the middle of the night, Shawn Campbell
<shawn@electricstitch.com> got up to write:
>Salamander Characters can have Artificer Armour for 15pts.
>
>When an HQ unit (Librarian, Chaplain, Commander, etc.) has a command squad
>he is _not_ an independent character, so should be allowed artificer armour
>for 15pts.
Whoa! IMAO this is reading far too much into the rules... why should a
Force Commander suddenly get cheaper Artificer Armour just because he
leads a command squad?
>I'm not sure how to edit this in. I'll probably look up Apothecaries and see
>how the 10pt/15pt terminator honours is dealt with.
If you really want to do it, create a second, cheaper artificer armour
option and use over: and more:.
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:46:10 -0700
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
Subject: Re: v2.0 Gromril weapon bug
Both Colen and I *JUST* got back into town less than 24 hours ago from
GenCon. Consequently, we have some catching up to do.
I just tried this quickly and it worked for me. However, there *IS* a
problem that was uncovered last week when saving rosters. If you include
single- or double-quote character in the roster name or notes, the saved
roster file will likely be unreadable. I've got this on the priority list
of things to fix, but that's going to be about a week before I get all the
other emergencies sorted out first. Please verify if this is the real
problem you are encountering.
Thanks, Rob
At 02:23 PM 8/15/00 +0000, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I've upgraded to Army Builder 2.0 and run a Reiklander warband in a
>Mordheim campaign. I think that I've come across a bug either in
>Army Builder or in the Mordheim files. I'm not sure where it is, so
>I'll try to give as much information as possible (probably too much)
>so that someone can fix the bug.
>
>My warband came across a Gromril axe. I listed gave it to one of my
>Youngbloods. I listed it by paying 5 g.c. for the axe and 15 g.c.
>for the gromril weapon 'special equipment' for a total of 20 g.c., as
>gromril weapons cost 4x the normal cost of a weapon.
>
>I saved the warband and the next time I tried to re-open that warband
>it gave the following error message: "Error reading data from roster
>file." Sometimes when I tried to re-open it, I got this message and
>it would then kick me back to the screen where I can chose to Create
>or Load a roster, Import files. Other times, after I got the message
>and clicked on "OK," it would try to open a new Dwarven
>Treasurehunters warband. This lead me to believe that the gromril
>weapon might be the problem.
>
>So, I created and saved a new, stripped down Reiklander warband,
>closed AB and reopened it and had no trouble loading the roster.
>However, when I added the gromril weapon, saved the roster and tried
>to close, re-open and reload the warband, I got the above error
>message.
>
>Is this really the problem? If so, can it be fixed?
>
>Thanks,
>Bill Le Chat
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 13:52:15 -0400
From: "Phil Groff" <philip@psych.utoronto.ca>
Subject: Re: Bug on switching game systems
Hi,
I find that AB crashes when I try to switch game systems. Is it because I have a roster open at the time or is there something more serious wrong here?
Phil G.
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 11:27:10 -0700
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
Subject: Re: Bug on switching game systems
AB should not be crashing on the switch, and it's been running quite stably
(i.e. no crashes) in that regard to the best of my knowledge. Please
provide me with the following information via private email (to avoid
cluttering this list):
Game system you are switching FROM
Game system you are switching TO
Saved copy of the roster you have open when switching
Memory on your system
Video card on your system
Anything else you think might be useful to help figure this one out
I'll investigate the problem and see what I can uncover. However, it's
really tough to fix a problem if I can't reproduce it on my computers, so
please provide as much info as possible to help me reproduce the problem.
Thanks, Rob
At 01:52 PM 8/15/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I find that AB crashes when I try to switch game systems. Is it because I
>have a roster open at the time or is there something more serious wrong here?
>
>Phil G.
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:16:28 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Re: a REAL wolf guard error....
One fine day in the middle of the night, bsobb@netscape.net got up to
write:
>Sorry, I found the FAQ you were talking about.
>
>Got another one for you though: It won't give me the option of
>choosing Healing Balms and Potions for my Wolf Priest.
>
>Is there another way to get this piece of wargear or was it left out?
It's there... I think there's an "issue" with the new itst: attribute.
I'll add a workaround for now.
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:15:47 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Hey Colen
One fine day in the middle of the night, Shawn Campbell
<shawn@electricstitch.com> got up to write:
>I don't know if you can do two of them,
You can't.
>but I don't see any reason why you
>can't do what you suggest.
The rmdr: attribute that controls the funky stuff is specifically
limited to one per unit. Changing it would take ages and not be worth
the effort, according to Rob.
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:20:08 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Re: Salamanders
One fine day in the middle of the night, Shawn Campbell
<shawn@electricstitch.com> got up to write:
>Salamanders Attack Bike needs to be changed to have initiative of 3.
>
>This is how I did it.
>
>I went to Augment.
>Created: Unit Local smAttChl Attr:In="3"
>
>Could someone please tell me if this is correct. It appears to work just
>fine. Using v2AlphaII.
It'll work slightly better if you qualify the attr attribute with a
'-race=sl', otherwise all races Attack Bikes will have Initiative 3.
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:20:38 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Re: Salamanders
One fine day in the middle of the night, doublenot7@aol.com got up to
write:
>Am I missing something? I have the Alpha2 files for AB2 but I dont see any
>Salamanders anywhere.
Yes, you are. They're under 'S' in the race list, from what I can
see...?
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:24:58 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Warhammer Fantasy - New files for new version versus old files?
One fine day in the middle of the night, owen_edge@rossinc.com got up to
write:
>Hey all,
>
>As a fairly longtime user of ArmyBuilder with Warhammer Fantasy
>Battle data files, I am curious as if thought has been given to the
>new data files that will be necessary for the new release coming out
>in October. Since it is such a drastic change and many of us are
>thinking about not going with the new changes or maybe playing both.
>When the new data files are created maybe they can use a different
>naming convention to allow the continued use of 5th edition data
>files and allow the use of the 6th edition ones when written at the
>same time. I, for one, don't want to be stuck to only using the new
>data files or not being able to upgrade and keep using the old ones.
>With the publication of the "Ravening Hordes", there has been a lot
>of discussion with the people I game with and it seems to be a good
>bit of hesitation whether or not to even try the new rules and many
>seem intent on doing both.
I'd imagine the new files will have a .rav or .wf6 (or whatever)
extension, at least that's the way I'd do it. If they don't, just rename
all the "whatever.wfb" files to "whatever.wf5". Note that using
"whatever.wfb5" won't work, because of some odd bug in windows
functions.
>If this is the wrong place for this
>concern, please point me to the correct place to address it.
You're in the right place
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:31:48 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: something Epicly different
One fine day in the middle of the night, Voidhammer
<voidhammer@yahoo.com> got up to write:
>Has anybody ever wrote any datafiles for Space Marine
>(the original Epic)? 1st edition Epic was much better
>than the last one that the game died with, but the
>cards are a pain Armybuilder is much easier
Not that I'm aware of. Something will hopefully be getting done soon
about datafiles for Epic2nd, but I've never even played Epic 1st ed.
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:28:13 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Problems with the Kult of Speed data file...........
One fine day in the middle of the night, siflandolly@home.com got up to
write:
>I think I have found a couple of problems with the Kult of Speed data
>file.
>
>1.) - Even though I only choose one WAAAAGH!! Banner for my army (Nob
>in Warbosses unit), a validation error comes up and states that I can
>only have one banner in my army.
Give it to a single Nob (added using the 'Add Additional Nob' option)
and it'll work. Otherwise all 5 Nobz get it.
>2.) - There is not way of adding an independant character to another
>unit. For example, I cannot add a Warboss or Big Mek to a unit of
>trukk boyz because as soon as I choose an independant character, they
>automatically come with a wartrukk.
I'm working on this rather annoying problem at the moment. Or rather, I
would be had I had more than 1 hour of sleep on the plane back from Gen
Con last night. For everyone that asked, I had a lovely time
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:30:32 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: something Epicly different
One fine day in the middle of the night, Daniel Rothman
<drothman.dmth94@gtalumni.org> got up to write:
>all -
>
>anyone know what's up with the Epic files? The old ones for 1.4d were
>severely inhibited by some of the AB1 constraints, but if i'm not
>mistaken might work out much better in AB2. is there an "official"
>(read: de facto) maintainer of those files?
Try:
Nikolaj Pilgaard Petersen <npilgaard@hotmail.com>
Aaron Cains <aaronc@powercom.com.au>
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:29:46 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Re: Adeptus Mechanicus files
One fine day in the middle of the night, Pete Burns <PJB1025@aol.com>
got up to write:
>Actually, it's a .zip file. I got it from the ab-files egroup, and
>downloaded it to the data folder. When I tried to import it, AB told
>me that it wasn't a valid AB import file. I suppose this is my
>error, so I was wondering what I should do.
It just means someone doesn't know about ABExport. Just unzip it as
normal, and send them an annoyed email asking them to do it properly
next time.
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:34:31 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Runepriest Question
One fine day in the middle of the night, vaul@altavista.com got up to
write:
>Erm... is the Space Wolf Runepriest supposed to pay 25 pts. for a
>terminator suit? I don't think so, according to the codex, but AB
>says so...
My bad. In the big 'Space wolves getting proper HQ units' conversion
several things went wrong, this appears to be one of them.
>And yes, I can tell you all feel like making rude comments about me
>and my genetic lineage, after the last time I asked if there was
>something wrong with the Wolf files. But this time I believe I do
>know what I'm howling about.
You do indeed
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:42:12 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: emperors champion.
One fine day in the middle of the night, e_freeland@hotmail.com got up
to write:
>In AB 2.0 when you are using a breakthrough mission it will not let
>you take an Emperors champion without taking a HQ choice.
>
>Problem is you do not have to take a HQ in these missions.
Aargh. I wondered when this would come up
>Does any one know if this is just a bug in the files or what?
It's an Issue.
Here's the deal. There are basically 2 ways the Emperor's Champion can
be modelled, that I can think of. (Anyone thinking of others, please,
let me know).
1) The way he is now. This ensures he doesn't take up an HQ unit, but
requires you to actually have some HQ in the first place. If you don't
have any HQ, just take the standard Emperor's Champion as a special
character choice - you don't need the extra HQ slots anyway, do you?
2) The same way that Imperial Guard Infantry Squads are done, using the
'Othr' group. The irritating thing about this is that I'll have to
modify every single composition rule for every single Space Marine-
derived army to let the Othr group be included, which would be very
boring. At some point in the future I'm going to have to do something
like it anyway, because the current race rules are an absolute
nightmare, but I've been trying to put it off until I can do something
else to it at the same time.
Will it cause great weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth if I leave it
as option 1 for now, or are there no major issues with doing so?
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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:47:22 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Hey Colen
One fine day in the middle of the night, Jonathan Hurley
<silvercat@dreamseeker.org> got up to write:
>I play Dark Angels, and I have a small quibble with the Dark Angels
>datafiles (v2.0 Pattern Alpha). Specifically, with the way it handles the
>Master/Grand Master of the Deathwing.
>
>Firstly, is he in fact a special character? I looked all through my codex,
>and I found no mention of it. The Master of the Ravenwing mentions that he
>is, both in the Dark Angels Hero section, and in his special rules. But
>there is no such mention in the Master of the Deathwing entry.
I thought it would look more internally consistent (not to mention being
easier for me to handle) if there were seperate {Grand} Master of the
Deathwing entries from the usual Master and Grand Master. In a Deathwing
army he's not treated as a special character, you may notice. If enough
people object violently, I'll change it; does anyone have any strong
opinions on the matter?
>Secondly, why does the AB entry for him give him his required terminator
>armor for free? He is costed at 80 for a Grand Master, and 65 for a Master,
>the same as his non-Deathwing compatriots. He should cost 25 points over the
>non-upgraded characters (105pts / 90pts).
As soon as you add him, the terminator armour cost of 25 points kicks
in.
>Thirdly, I'd like to thank everyone involved for producing these files, and
>hope that just because my first public comment on them is a criticism, that
>they realize that I enormously appreciate their time and effort.
Thanks!
BTW: I apologise to the group for the currently flood of my messages
invading it. Normal service will be resumed shortly.
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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:33:20 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Problem: reading roster after up dating data files
One fine day in the middle of the night, Mark Hardt <mark_ml@hardt.com>
got up to write:
>Hello,
>
>I am having a problem, under AB v1.x I was able to update the data
>files and had no problem reading my saved rosters.
>
>now under AB 2.0a I have found (in one instace since not may files
>have been updated) that when I updated 40k3_v2_alpha.ab with
>40k3_v2_alphaII.ab I am unable to read my saved roster. Is this
>going to be a normal thing or was it just that this update had
>problems?
There were several large banners at various points saying "No! Don't do
it! Your saved rosters won't work!" I think they were meant to be a
particularly subtle clue....
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Topics in this digest:
1. v2.0 Gromril weapon bug
From: "Bill Le Chat" <gaius_octavius@usa.net>
2. GorkaMorka Files
From: fpnovy@uswest.net
3. Re: Salamanders Artificer Armour
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
4. Re: Hey Colen
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
5. Re: Re: Error in the Space Wolf files again...
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
6. Re: Re: Error in the Space Wolf files again...
From: "Jimi" <james.tubman@cableinet.co.uk>
7. Chaos Error -- Colen
From: "Matthius" <Mathius@ticnet.com>
8. RE: Salamanders Artificer Armour
From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com>
9. Command Squads and Wargear, was Re: Salamanders Artificer Armour
From: "Phil Groff" <philip@psych.utoronto.ca>
10. Re: v2.0 Gromril weapon bug
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
11. Re: Bug on switching game systems
From: "Phil Groff" <philip@psych.utoronto.ca>
12. Re: Bug on switching game systems
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
13. Re: Re: a REAL wolf guard error....
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
14. Re: Hey Colen
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
15. Re: Re: Salamanders
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
16. Re: Re: Salamanders
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
17. Re: Warhammer Fantasy - New files for new version versus old files?
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
18. Re: something Epicly different
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
19. Re: Problems with the Kult of Speed data file...........
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
20. Re: something Epicly different
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
21. Re: Re: Adeptus Mechanicus files
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
22. Re: Runepriest Question
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
23. Re: emperors champion.
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
24. Re: Hey Colen
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
25. Re: Problem: reading roster after up dating data files
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:23:18 -0000
From: "Bill Le Chat" <gaius_octavius@usa.net>
Subject: v2.0 Gromril weapon bug
Hello,
I've upgraded to Army Builder 2.0 and run a Reiklander warband in a
Mordheim campaign. I think that I've come across a bug either in
Army Builder or in the Mordheim files. I'm not sure where it is, so
I'll try to give as much information as possible (probably too much)
so that someone can fix the bug.
My warband came across a Gromril axe. I listed gave it to one of my
Youngbloods. I listed it by paying 5 g.c. for the axe and 15 g.c.
for the gromril weapon 'special equipment' for a total of 20 g.c., as
gromril weapons cost 4x the normal cost of a weapon.
I saved the warband and the next time I tried to re-open that warband
it gave the following error message: "Error reading data from roster
file." Sometimes when I tried to re-open it, I got this message and
it would then kick me back to the screen where I can chose to Create
or Load a roster, Import files. Other times, after I got the message
and clicked on "OK," it would try to open a new Dwarven
Treasurehunters warband. This lead me to believe that the gromril
weapon might be the problem.
So, I created and saved a new, stripped down Reiklander warband,
closed AB and reopened it and had no trouble loading the roster.
However, when I added the gromril weapon, saved the roster and tried
to close, re-open and reload the warband, I got the above error
message.
Is this really the problem? If so, can it be fixed?
Thanks,
Bill Le Chat
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:55:34 -0000
From: fpnovy@uswest.net
Subject: GorkaMorka Files
I try to get the Gorkmorka file to work with V2 and I got an Invalid
file message. Is there a V2 version for Gorkamorka?
Thank you
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:19:11 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Salamanders Artificer Armour
One fine day in the middle of the night, Shawn Campbell
<shawn@electricstitch.com> got up to write:
>Salamander Characters can have Artificer Armour for 15pts.
>
>When an HQ unit (Librarian, Chaplain, Commander, etc.) has a command squad
>he is _not_ an independent character, so should be allowed artificer armour
>for 15pts.
Whoa! IMAO this is reading far too much into the rules... why should a
Force Commander suddenly get cheaper Artificer Armour just because he
leads a command squad?
>I'm not sure how to edit this in. I'll probably look up Apothecaries and see
>how the 10pt/15pt terminator honours is dealt with.
If you really want to do it, create a second, cheaper artificer armour
option and use over: and more:.
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:19:37 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Hey Colen
One fine day in the middle of the night, doublenot7@aol.com got up to
write:
>I detachment of Catachan Devils may be taken by any IG army, I dont believe
>the Catachan Assault Squads may be taken by any other than Catachans.
IIRC it says they can in the front of the Catachan codex...
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:17:25 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Re: Error in the Space Wolf files again...
One fine day in the middle of the night, vaul@altavista.com got up to
write:
>Can you tell me where I can read the E-mail?
The Space Wolf mailing list, wherever that lives.
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 18:16:29 +0100
From: "Jimi" <james.tubman@cableinet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Re: Error in the Space Wolf files again...
> >Can you tell me where I can read the E-mail?
>
> The Space Wolf mailing list, wherever that lives.
On Egroups
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:20:56 -0500
From: "Matthius" <Mathius@ticnet.com>
Subject: Chaos Error -- Colen
Hey Colen,
There's an error in the Chaos datafiles for the bikers. It's listed has
having to take a minimum of 2 specials, instead of a maximum of 2. Just a
heads up. I fixed it in my file, but you may hear some screaming later from
others
heheMatt
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:24:49 -0700
From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com>
Subject: RE: Salamanders Artificer Armour
> >Salamander Characters can have Artificer Armour for 15pts.
> >
> >When an HQ unit (Librarian, Chaplain, Commander, etc.) has a
> command squad
> >he is _not_ an independent character, so should be allowed
> artificer armour
> >for 15pts.
>
> Whoa! IMAO this is reading far too much into the rules... why should a
> Force Commander suddenly get cheaper Artificer Armour just because he
> leads a command squad?
Actually, I didn't read far enough in... At the time I wrote that message, I
was under the impression that IC's could not take IC wargear if they were
accompanied by a command squad. I have since learned since then and now know
why the IC's pay more for their wargear.
I believe I found my answer in the Q&A.
Thanks,
Shawn Campbell
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 13:42:32 -0400
From: "Phil Groff" <philip@psych.utoronto.ca>
Subject: Command Squads and Wargear, was Re: Salamanders Artificer Armour
Hello all
Taking a command squad doesn't affect wargear choices! This is a common misconception about independent characters and wargear. What the line about "unless he takes a command squad..." means is that the character only functions as an independent character (i.e. being able to join squads, etc.) if he doesn't have a command squad. It doesn't affect wargear selection in any way. This has been clarified on several occasions. You can have a space marine commander in terminator armour leading a command squad in power armour, or one on a bike leading a squad on foot (though all that does is spoil his mobility by enforcing coherence).
Cheers,
Phil G.
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Subject: Re: [AB] Salamanders Artificer Armour
One fine day in the middle of the night, Shawn Campbell
<shawn@electricstitch.com> got up to write:
>Salamander Characters can have Artificer Armour for 15pts.
>
>When an HQ unit (Librarian, Chaplain, Commander, etc.) has a command squad
>he is _not_ an independent character, so should be allowed artificer armour
>for 15pts.
Whoa! IMAO this is reading far too much into the rules... why should a
Force Commander suddenly get cheaper Artificer Armour just because he
leads a command squad?
>I'm not sure how to edit this in. I'll probably look up Apothecaries and see
>how the 10pt/15pt terminator honours is dealt with.
If you really want to do it, create a second, cheaper artificer armour
option and use over: and more:.
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:46:10 -0700
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
Subject: Re: v2.0 Gromril weapon bug
Both Colen and I *JUST* got back into town less than 24 hours ago from
GenCon. Consequently, we have some catching up to do.
I just tried this quickly and it worked for me. However, there *IS* a
problem that was uncovered last week when saving rosters. If you include
single- or double-quote character in the roster name or notes, the saved
roster file will likely be unreadable. I've got this on the priority list
of things to fix, but that's going to be about a week before I get all the
other emergencies sorted out first. Please verify if this is the real
problem you are encountering.
Thanks, Rob
At 02:23 PM 8/15/00 +0000, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I've upgraded to Army Builder 2.0 and run a Reiklander warband in a
>Mordheim campaign. I think that I've come across a bug either in
>Army Builder or in the Mordheim files. I'm not sure where it is, so
>I'll try to give as much information as possible (probably too much)
>so that someone can fix the bug.
>
>My warband came across a Gromril axe. I listed gave it to one of my
>Youngbloods. I listed it by paying 5 g.c. for the axe and 15 g.c.
>for the gromril weapon 'special equipment' for a total of 20 g.c., as
>gromril weapons cost 4x the normal cost of a weapon.
>
>I saved the warband and the next time I tried to re-open that warband
>it gave the following error message: "Error reading data from roster
>file." Sometimes when I tried to re-open it, I got this message and
>it would then kick me back to the screen where I can chose to Create
>or Load a roster, Import files. Other times, after I got the message
>and clicked on "OK," it would try to open a new Dwarven
>Treasurehunters warband. This lead me to believe that the gromril
>weapon might be the problem.
>
>So, I created and saved a new, stripped down Reiklander warband,
>closed AB and reopened it and had no trouble loading the roster.
>However, when I added the gromril weapon, saved the roster and tried
>to close, re-open and reload the warband, I got the above error
>message.
>
>Is this really the problem? If so, can it be fixed?
>
>Thanks,
>Bill Le Chat
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 13:52:15 -0400
From: "Phil Groff" <philip@psych.utoronto.ca>
Subject: Re: Bug on switching game systems
Hi,
I find that AB crashes when I try to switch game systems. Is it because I have a roster open at the time or is there something more serious wrong here?
Phil G.
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 11:27:10 -0700
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
Subject: Re: Bug on switching game systems
AB should not be crashing on the switch, and it's been running quite stably
(i.e. no crashes) in that regard to the best of my knowledge. Please
provide me with the following information via private email (to avoid
cluttering this list):
Game system you are switching FROM
Game system you are switching TO
Saved copy of the roster you have open when switching
Memory on your system
Video card on your system
Anything else you think might be useful to help figure this one out
I'll investigate the problem and see what I can uncover. However, it's
really tough to fix a problem if I can't reproduce it on my computers, so
please provide as much info as possible to help me reproduce the problem.
Thanks, Rob
At 01:52 PM 8/15/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I find that AB crashes when I try to switch game systems. Is it because I
>have a roster open at the time or is there something more serious wrong here?
>
>Phil G.
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:16:28 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Re: a REAL wolf guard error....
One fine day in the middle of the night, bsobb@netscape.net got up to
write:
>Sorry, I found the FAQ you were talking about.
>
>Got another one for you though: It won't give me the option of
>choosing Healing Balms and Potions for my Wolf Priest.
>
>Is there another way to get this piece of wargear or was it left out?
It's there... I think there's an "issue" with the new itst: attribute.
I'll add a workaround for now.
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:15:47 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Hey Colen
One fine day in the middle of the night, Shawn Campbell
<shawn@electricstitch.com> got up to write:
>I don't know if you can do two of them,
You can't.
>but I don't see any reason why you
>can't do what you suggest.
The rmdr: attribute that controls the funky stuff is specifically
limited to one per unit. Changing it would take ages and not be worth
the effort, according to Rob.
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:20:08 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Re: Salamanders
One fine day in the middle of the night, Shawn Campbell
<shawn@electricstitch.com> got up to write:
>Salamanders Attack Bike needs to be changed to have initiative of 3.
>
>This is how I did it.
>
>I went to Augment.
>Created: Unit Local smAttChl Attr:In="3"
>
>Could someone please tell me if this is correct. It appears to work just
>fine. Using v2AlphaII.
It'll work slightly better if you qualify the attr attribute with a
'-race=sl', otherwise all races Attack Bikes will have Initiative 3.
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:20:38 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Re: Salamanders
One fine day in the middle of the night, doublenot7@aol.com got up to
write:
>Am I missing something? I have the Alpha2 files for AB2 but I dont see any
>Salamanders anywhere.
Yes, you are. They're under 'S' in the race list, from what I can
see...?
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:24:58 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Warhammer Fantasy - New files for new version versus old files?
One fine day in the middle of the night, owen_edge@rossinc.com got up to
write:
>Hey all,
>
>As a fairly longtime user of ArmyBuilder with Warhammer Fantasy
>Battle data files, I am curious as if thought has been given to the
>new data files that will be necessary for the new release coming out
>in October. Since it is such a drastic change and many of us are
>thinking about not going with the new changes or maybe playing both.
>When the new data files are created maybe they can use a different
>naming convention to allow the continued use of 5th edition data
>files and allow the use of the 6th edition ones when written at the
>same time. I, for one, don't want to be stuck to only using the new
>data files or not being able to upgrade and keep using the old ones.
>With the publication of the "Ravening Hordes", there has been a lot
>of discussion with the people I game with and it seems to be a good
>bit of hesitation whether or not to even try the new rules and many
>seem intent on doing both.
I'd imagine the new files will have a .rav or .wf6 (or whatever)
extension, at least that's the way I'd do it. If they don't, just rename
all the "whatever.wfb" files to "whatever.wf5". Note that using
"whatever.wfb5" won't work, because of some odd bug in windows
functions.
>If this is the wrong place for this
>concern, please point me to the correct place to address it.
You're in the right place
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:31:48 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: something Epicly different
One fine day in the middle of the night, Voidhammer
<voidhammer@yahoo.com> got up to write:
>Has anybody ever wrote any datafiles for Space Marine
>(the original Epic)? 1st edition Epic was much better
>than the last one that the game died with, but the
>cards are a pain
Armybuilder is much easier Not that I'm aware of. Something will hopefully be getting done soon
about datafiles for Epic2nd, but I've never even played Epic 1st ed.
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:28:13 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Problems with the Kult of Speed data file...........
One fine day in the middle of the night, siflandolly@home.com got up to
write:
>I think I have found a couple of problems with the Kult of Speed data
>file.
>
>1.) - Even though I only choose one WAAAAGH!! Banner for my army (Nob
>in Warbosses unit), a validation error comes up and states that I can
>only have one banner in my army.
Give it to a single Nob (added using the 'Add Additional Nob' option)
and it'll work. Otherwise all 5 Nobz get it.
>2.) - There is not way of adding an independant character to another
>unit. For example, I cannot add a Warboss or Big Mek to a unit of
>trukk boyz because as soon as I choose an independant character, they
>automatically come with a wartrukk.
I'm working on this rather annoying problem at the moment. Or rather, I
would be had I had more than 1 hour of sleep on the plane back from Gen
Con last night.
For everyone that asked, I had a lovely time --
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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:30:32 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: something Epicly different
One fine day in the middle of the night, Daniel Rothman
<drothman.dmth94@gtalumni.org> got up to write:
>all -
>
>anyone know what's up with the Epic files? The old ones for 1.4d were
>severely inhibited by some of the AB1 constraints, but if i'm not
>mistaken might work out much better in AB2. is there an "official"
>(read: de facto) maintainer of those files?
Try:
Nikolaj Pilgaard Petersen <npilgaard@hotmail.com>
Aaron Cains <aaronc@powercom.com.au>
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:29:46 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Re: Adeptus Mechanicus files
One fine day in the middle of the night, Pete Burns <PJB1025@aol.com>
got up to write:
>Actually, it's a .zip file. I got it from the ab-files egroup, and
>downloaded it to the data folder. When I tried to import it, AB told
>me that it wasn't a valid AB import file. I suppose this is my
>error, so I was wondering what I should do.
It just means someone doesn't know about ABExport. Just unzip it as
normal, and send them an annoyed email asking them to do it properly
next time.
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:34:31 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Runepriest Question
One fine day in the middle of the night, vaul@altavista.com got up to
write:
>Erm... is the Space Wolf Runepriest supposed to pay 25 pts. for a
>terminator suit? I don't think so, according to the codex, but AB
>says so...
My bad. In the big 'Space wolves getting proper HQ units' conversion
several things went wrong, this appears to be one of them.
>And yes, I can tell you all feel like making rude comments about me
>and my genetic lineage, after the last time I asked if there was
>something wrong with the Wolf files. But this time I believe I do
>know what I'm howling about.
You do indeed
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:42:12 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: emperors champion.
One fine day in the middle of the night, e_freeland@hotmail.com got up
to write:
>In AB 2.0 when you are using a breakthrough mission it will not let
>you take an Emperors champion without taking a HQ choice.
>
>Problem is you do not have to take a HQ in these missions.
Aargh. I wondered when this would come up
>Does any one know if this is just a bug in the files or what?
It's an Issue.
Here's the deal. There are basically 2 ways the Emperor's Champion can
be modelled, that I can think of. (Anyone thinking of others, please,
let me know).
1) The way he is now. This ensures he doesn't take up an HQ unit, but
requires you to actually have some HQ in the first place. If you don't
have any HQ, just take the standard Emperor's Champion as a special
character choice - you don't need the extra HQ slots anyway, do you?
2) The same way that Imperial Guard Infantry Squads are done, using the
'Othr' group. The irritating thing about this is that I'll have to
modify every single composition rule for every single Space Marine-
derived army to let the Othr group be included, which would be very
boring. At some point in the future I'm going to have to do something
like it anyway, because the current race rules are an absolute
nightmare, but I've been trying to put it off until I can do something
else to it at the same time.
Will it cause great weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth if I leave it
as option 1 for now, or are there no major issues with doing so?
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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:47:22 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Hey Colen
One fine day in the middle of the night, Jonathan Hurley
<silvercat@dreamseeker.org> got up to write:
>I play Dark Angels, and I have a small quibble with the Dark Angels
>datafiles (v2.0 Pattern Alpha). Specifically, with the way it handles the
>Master/Grand Master of the Deathwing.
>
>Firstly, is he in fact a special character? I looked all through my codex,
>and I found no mention of it. The Master of the Ravenwing mentions that he
>is, both in the Dark Angels Hero section, and in his special rules. But
>there is no such mention in the Master of the Deathwing entry.
I thought it would look more internally consistent (not to mention being
easier for me to handle) if there were seperate {Grand} Master of the
Deathwing entries from the usual Master and Grand Master. In a Deathwing
army he's not treated as a special character, you may notice. If enough
people object violently, I'll change it; does anyone have any strong
opinions on the matter?
>Secondly, why does the AB entry for him give him his required terminator
>armor for free? He is costed at 80 for a Grand Master, and 65 for a Master,
>the same as his non-Deathwing compatriots. He should cost 25 points over the
>non-upgraded characters (105pts / 90pts).
As soon as you add him, the terminator armour cost of 25 points kicks
in.
>Thirdly, I'd like to thank everyone involved for producing these files, and
>hope that just because my first public comment on them is a criticism, that
>they realize that I enormously appreciate their time and effort.
Thanks!
BTW: I apologise to the group for the currently flood of my messages
invading it. Normal service will be resumed shortly.
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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:33:20 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Problem: reading roster after up dating data files
One fine day in the middle of the night, Mark Hardt <mark_ml@hardt.com>
got up to write:
>Hello,
>
>I am having a problem, under AB v1.x I was able to update the data
>files and had no problem reading my saved rosters.
>
>now under AB 2.0a I have found (in one instace since not may files
>have been updated) that when I updated 40k3_v2_alpha.ab with
>40k3_v2_alphaII.ab I am unable to read my saved roster. Is this
>going to be a normal thing or was it just that this update had
>problems?
There were several large banners at various points saying "No! Don't do
it! Your saved rosters won't work!" I think they were meant to be a
particularly subtle clue....
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