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Darius Silverbolt
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Old November 21st, 2021, 07:15 AM
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Hey guys, been wanting to pop and and let you all know we live, just been super busy with work for the holidays (but when aren't we busy, really). We've not forgotten SF by any means, and always try to get the main books out as close to release as possible (even if nanocyte made us question if we'd need to release Tech Rev in two parts lol, that class was nuts to code). Core books are always our priority for both SF and PF2, and APs get worked in around other projects and enhancements, as I've mentioned elsewhere. We've been doing some contractor training on the PF2 ones lately, since they're simpler to handle in the code than SF tends to be and they've got more experience with the system.

I can't really speak to the details of pipelines or projects, but that's the general approach that is taken.
Daniel I can understand that the core books are priority, I mean that make perfect sense but the Starfinder AP line is YEARS behind and there isn't a lot of core books released in a year. Frankly there is now free software that is up to date that is just a character builder (which is what most of us want) ran by what seems one person. (To be fair it could be more but no where near the staffing of HLO).

Put all the together and it seems HLO has just abandoned the SF AP line and it is really hard to think it's any other way given the communication from LoneWolf.
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Old November 22nd, 2021, 03:09 PM
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Daniel I can understand that the core books are priority, I mean that make perfect sense but the Starfinder AP line is YEARS behind and there isn't a lot of core books released in a year. Frankly there is now free software that is up to date that is just a character builder (which is what most of us want) ran by what seems one person. (To be fair it could be more but no where near the staffing of HLO).

Put all the together and it seems HLO has just abandoned the SF AP line and it is really hard to think it's any other way given the communication from LoneWolf.
I suspect part of the problem is the unique language that needs to be learnt to be able to craft anything in Hero Lab (assuming the HLO uses the same language as HLO). If they were able to switch to a universal language (e.g. javascript), then the learning curve to bring on new contractors would be a lot less.

Does the free software that you reference as a character builder also handle effects modifying the character during live play?

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Old November 23rd, 2021, 03:10 PM
How odd that solutions to problems players have that Lone Wolf can't solve are being deleted. Perhaps if LW delivered on their products, I would have renewed my PF2 sub and even added a SF sub.

Hero Lab Classic was the best product with a huge amount of support and customization that I used for many years and many game systems.

The shift to online with a software as a service business plan was frankly a poor move on the part of LW and felt like a slap to my face. I'm paying more for much less. Now not only we pay for the books and systems, but we have to pay for maintaining a server. Core functions of starfinder are not available after years and I don't think we are going to see mechs from Tech Revolution anytime soon either.

There needs to be a significant shift in the philosophy at LW as to how to provide to the customers that are paying for their product.
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Old November 23rd, 2021, 03:11 PM
Posts directing folks to outside character creation sources are not allowed.

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Old November 23rd, 2021, 06:35 PM
I like how LW chimes in with a vague answer then telling us not to post about alternate tools. Maybe when a group of your diehard supporters are posting about alternate tools, it's a much bigger problem than forum etiquette.
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Old November 24th, 2021, 01:37 AM
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I like how
I don't think you do.

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Old November 24th, 2021, 06:31 AM
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Posts directing folks to outside character creation sources are not allowed.

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This is really, really not a good look.
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Old November 24th, 2021, 12:08 PM
yikes. LWD really is circling the drain, aren't they?
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Old November 24th, 2021, 02:09 PM
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yikes. LWD really is circling the drain, aren't they?
But they are just implementing the policy given in their forum rules, which can be found at http://forums.wolflair.com/showthread.php?t=5528

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Old November 24th, 2021, 11:01 PM
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But they are just implementing the policy given in their forum rules...
Well.. in that their rules allow them to modify, or delete content on the forums. There's nothing in those Rules that specifically disallow links to third-party sites. (I don't think there was evidence that the poster of the deleted post owned or ran the linked site.)
They haven't deleted the post that gives a link to Pathfinder Nexus. They were certainly aware of that thread since it prompted a "we aren't going out of business" post. Maybe competitors that have a license from Paizo are okay to post links to. Will they disallow links to VTT's, because you can create characters in those too?

Lone Wolf's responses (to almost any thread/post/question, when they actually do respond) certainly aren't of the quality/value or breadth that they used to be. With the exception of Mathias still assisting in the HLC forum, I really feel that we get almost nothing from LW except advertising of "new" packages.

I'm not giving up on them yet, but I never invested in HLO (and won't) and rarely used HLC at my game sessions in the past, so I'm NOT in the position a lot of other people are. Classic still covers all my game prep. If they don't improve their communication though, I may give up on the forums, and then the only time I'll bother with them is if I need early license re-assignment.

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