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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
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The developers should add the ability for the installer to detect an already licensed install when doing an update so that upgrading the software does not trigger demo mode and require reactivation.
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Greater London, UK
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It doesn't normally enter demo mode when updating HeroLab.
If you are referring to updating WIndows 10, then this appears to be primarily affecting users who choose to be on the "fast track" of Windows 10 updates. It is a problem with Windows 10 changing some internal data which causes the HL license to become invalid. (A search of the forums will find the responses to other users who have requested this in the past.) |
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Join Date: Oct 2015
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I have to reactivate my license every time Hero Lab updates. Even if yours doesn't go into demo mode my request is still genuine, the installer should check to see if it was already activated. The last two or three times I have updated I've been stuck in demo mode all weekend since they don't do activation on the weekend. I've wasted a lot of money on this software that I wish I could have back for it not to work 50% of the time I need it to. The horrible DRM is why I steered someone inquiring about character software to PCGen last week on Facebook. I understand the need for DRM, but it could be a lot better, starting with checking if the software is activated during an update. It's 10:30 Monday morning and they still have not responded to my request, do they not start working until noon?
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Lone Wolf Staff
Join Date: Jul 2013
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Hi @evdjj3j, we're actually already working on a change to the licensing system that will help users like you on the Windows insider program.
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Well, I've been working since 8:30 am Pacific. Our one tech support staff member has been replying to users emails, and I'm sure he'll get yours soon. |
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Join Date: Oct 2015
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I am no longer part of the Windows Insider program, that is not what triggered demo mode. Demo mode was triggered because it has been less that 120 days since the last time I upgraded, my last request was Oct 13th. I'm interested in what changes are being made to the DRM. I'm hoping that it checks during the upgrade for a valid license and doesn't ask to phone home if a valid license is found?
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As to what exactly is being changed in the update that I mentioned, one of the developers would need to chime in (I will point them to this thread). |
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Lone Wolf Staff
Join Date: Dec 2008
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The current methods we use to detect a computer change used to work well, but as Liz mentioned, Microsoft messed with things in Windows 10 and now they mis-detect a new computer after certain things (for example, upgrading to a new build of windows, which MS now releases every few months). The changes will mean that this no longer occurs. If you need to contact us for early reassignment every time you update Hero Lab, that means something is wrong - in the vast majority of these cases, it turns out that someone has been using the same Hero Lab license number on two computers. Our tech support staff tries to catch these when they occur, but we don't always spot them, but if it's a problem you're having regularly, please flag it to our support staff (support@wolflair.com) and they'll try to get things figured out. Hope this helps! |
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Greater London, UK
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Have you raised a question at support@wolflair.com about this? They may be able to help you resolve your PCs problem.
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Join Date: May 2014
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The upgrade/update you are referring to is from Hero Lab itself I presume or actual windows? Just to clarify that part first.
If so that normally shouldn't invalidate the license in place (generally a reactivate will just work without an early reassignment request). If that isn't working. My best bet would be that either your license is being used by more than one machine (which is possible if an update asks you to reactivate licenses. whether it is knowingly or by accident). The other option can have several causes. If you are certain that your license isn't being used by more machines. It is best to contact support and try to figure out why the software update is invalidating your license. As for the windows part issues as Liz has stated Windows 10 (assuming you currently are on w10. seeing you haven't actually stated what OS you are on. Which is actually rather useful information to have) is causing certain issues for certain people at the moment. Last edited by Togainu; January 18th, 2016 at 02:13 PM. |
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Join Date: Oct 2015
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I tried to use Hero Lab again and once again I'm stuck in demo mode. I tried using it on Thursday like was suggested by support personnel as a fix so I could get my license out of demo mode on a weekday, but that does not seem to work either. It's almost 5 PM on Friday and the license has not been unlocked.
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