(Drop Dead Studios) Spheres of Power: Official Support Thread

[TheIronGolem]

Originally Posted by ShadowChemosh

I just checked the ones I am using and they appear to all be working. That is really strange as I can't think of anything that should prevent that feature from working....

So I drilled into this a bit further, and I found something interesting. Two of the Things you've extended in the file COM_3PPPack_UltimatePsionics_Augmented_7th_Path - Archetypes.user (Witch Hexes for a Cryptic archetype):

<extthing thing="cWitCursWn" group="SpecSource" tag="arPUKalfo"/>
<extthing thing="cWitDiscor" group="SpecSource" tag="arPUKalfo"/>

These two Things have something in common: I don't have them. They come from Player's Companion #13, which I don't have in my license. That's probably not a coincidence, in my opinion.

If I remove or comment those two extthings, my extthings work again.

I've updated LW with this information as well, as I'm sure it's not intended behavior. Oddly, this doesn't seem to break the extensions you have on feats for the Talented Monk, only my stuff and the other Hexes for the Kalfore.

[EldritchWeaver]

Originally Posted by TheIronGolem

Haven't been able to reproduce this.

If you once activate the shapeshift (tested it with size change), deactivation doesn't work.

Originally Posted by TheIronGolem

I considered doing this early on, and decided against it for reasons I can no longer recall. I'll revisit this again.

Well, the In-Play tab does provide this functionality, too, but that's not where I usually look, because I don't use HL during play.

Originally Posted by TheIronGolem

For cases where you're not supposed to gain the drawback because you had Alteration prior to taking the class, there's a "No Lycanthropic Drawback" checkbox on the class tab. Not exactly a graceful solution I realize, but it's necessary because HL doesn't know when you took a given class or talent, so it has to rely on your judgment as to whether you should get the drawback or not.

Didn't notice this checkbox. I can't even find it now.

Originally Posted by TheIronGolem

As for the extra Alteration Sphere talent, that's a convergence of quirks. The sphere-access talents are now Add Once instead of Unique, so that Basic Magic Training can conditionally bootstrap them without making them unavailable in the chooser tables. Add in the fact that Warshifter bootstraps the talent instead of giving a bonus talent (because it's a specific exception to the general rule about classes that grant a sphere giving a bonus talent if you already have that sphere*; a few other archs do this as well) and you end up with this weird little corner case.

*This rule is not spelled out in the book. But last year I noticed that some bonus-sphere-granting classes/archs explicitly say this and some don't. So I asked Adam about it, and he confirmed that it is meant to be the case generally.

I've been aware of this rule, but it is nice that you've implemented it as well.

Originally Posted by TheIronGolem

Works for me. Did you ready the maneuvers? I don't know when this changed because I haven't touched the PoW code in about a thousand years, but it seems non-readied maneuvers are hidden from the Specials tab now.

That only readied stuff is in there is unfortunate, if that also means that the unreadied maneuvers aren't printed out. Need to check this some time. But I actually meant the shifter class tab. It doesn't spell out the maneuver recovery mechanism.

BTW, psyforensic seems still to create the magic talents tab.

Edit:

Furthermore, I'm wondering if I should have CL 11 in Life for a psyforensic investigator 2/triple goddess hedgewitch 9. Shouldn't PI only count for +1 CL?

[kargoth]

Yep, drawbacks are not giving bonus spell points now. Tried remaking character completely and still no love there.

[TheIronGolem]

Originally Posted by EldritchWeaver

If you once activate the shapeshift (tested it with size change), deactivation doesn't work.

Turns out the Size Change trait was lacking "stop if disabled" code, so I have fixed that in my current build.

Originally Posted by EldritchWeaver

But I actually meant the shifter class tab. It doesn't spell out the maneuver recovery mechanism.

Ah, right. I forgot to make a "maneuver recovery" special for the Warshifter. That'll be in 1.21 for sure.

Originally Posted by EldritchWeaver

Didn't notice this checkbox. I can't even find it now.

...

BTW, psyforensic seems still to create the magic talents tab.

Edit:

Furthermore, I'm wondering if I should have CL 11 in Life for a psyforensic investigator 2/triple goddess hedgewitch 9. Shouldn't PI only count for +1 CL?

Can't reproduce these; would you mind posting your .por file?

[EldritchWeaver]

Originally Posted by TheIronGolem

Turns out the Size Change trait was lacking "stop if disabled" code, so I have fixed that in my current build.

Of course, I run into the bug. Because all Alteration using chars of mine have this...

Originally Posted by TheIronGolem

Can't reproduce these; would you mind posting your .por file?

Attached a file for your perusal.

[TheIronGolem]

Opening your .por file gives me this error:

Pick 'arInvPsySP' has been orphaned due to missing thing in batch '773'

That thingid is not one of mine. Also, the Diviner's Handbook doesn't seem to be enabled on that .por. I'm guessing you homebrewed a Psyforensic archetype prior to the release of the Diviner's Handbook?

When I subbed in my own Psyforensic, I did see the character has a Life CL of 11, but only when Fractional Caster Level was turned on (which it was to start). I suspect this has to do with the fact that you're combining two Mid-Caster classes where one of them hi-casts with the sphere in question. I'm not sure I considered that scenario before.

Warshifter still shows me the checkbox.

[EldritchWeaver]

Originally Posted by TheIronGolem

Opening your .por file gives me this error:

Pick 'arInvPsySP' has been orphaned due to missing thing in batch '773'

That thingid is not one of mine. Also, the Diviner's Handbook doesn't seem to be enabled on that .por. I'm guessing you homebrewed a Psyforensic archetype prior to the release of the Diviner's Handbook?

True, I forgot to remove the homebrewed stuff from this computer.

Originally Posted by TheIronGolem

When I subbed in my own Psyforensic, I did see the character has a Life CL of 11, but only when Fractional Caster Level was turned on (which it was to start). I suspect this has to do with the fact that you're combining two Mid-Caster classes where one of them hi-casts with the sphere in question. I'm not sure I considered that scenario before.

Well, the result should be the same as a High-Caster combined with a Mid-Caster.

Originally Posted by TheIronGolem

Warshifter still shows me the checkbox.

Maybe the cause is the Warshifter I've homebrewed. After I deleted it, I can see it in the tab.

[Laucian]

I got a bug to report. If you add the "Soaring Blade" archetype to the "Armorist" class the "magic talent" tab appears and won't go away. I'm guessing it's caused by the "weapon specialist" drawback being present and can't be removed. The same thing happens if you take the "Commander On High" arsenal trick.

[EldritchWeaver]

I've been trying to apply a shapeshift to a character who doesn't have Alteration. But the tab is missing, so I can't.

Also Fast Healing trait is missing the note, that it costs one SP to apply. There is no trait to choose, when you wish to employ Perfect Imitation (required for Improved Transformation). Size Change doesn't affect the space (still 10 feet, not 5 feet for Medium).

[TheIronGolem]

The Alteration: Shapeshift adjustment should cause the Alteration tab to appear on a character who lacks the Alteration Sphere.