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Fox Lee
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Old September 8th, 2012, 07:16 AM
Me again!

Hopefully a quick question this time; just wondering if there is a way to get a bootstrapped freebie to ignore a thing that is normally required before it can be selected. Specifically, I made a bunch of backgrounds for my setting that include a single free ritual which does not require the Ritual Caster feat (my players tend to ignore rituals, to the party's detriment, so I thought waving a free one in their faces might help).

Of course, HeroLab gives a validation error when a character without Ritual Caster has mastered a ritual - fair enough. But is there a way I can tell it not to worry about that? I tried upping the allowable rituals and selecting the appropriate thing as a bonus ritual instead of just giving it as a bootstrap, but it still gives the same error.

I saw something similar when I was playing with the editor - the Cavalier bootstraps a power from the Knight, and the bootstrap has a tag like User: ClassOK,which I assume makes it accept the fact that it exists on a non-fighter. Is there an equivalent of that for bypassing feat requirements (and perhaps other requirements - never know when I might need them)? Or do I misunderstand what it's doing?

Thanks in advance ^^

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Old September 8th, 2012, 08:04 AM
You might try looking at "Mark" feats like Mark of Passage. Almost all of them grant the use of at least 1 ritual without the need of the Ritual Caster feat.
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Old September 8th, 2012, 05:00 PM
I already checked those, but in HeroLab they don't have a mechanical effect - They're just text. Thanks for the suggestion though ^^

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Old September 8th, 2012, 08:49 PM
Try adding thing.skipprereq

Edit: BTW you take a look at equipment.str to see how the prereq validation works. First line of both validations for rituals have a test for the tag thing.skipprereq and bypass the rest of the test if it is present. Likewise traits.str has a check for User.ClassOK which is why it works for powers.

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Old September 10th, 2012, 03:39 PM
Worked like a charm And telling me where to find it as well - hopefully that should help me get a better understanding of how it all works, so I don't need to ask as many questions in the future ^_^; Thanks heaps!

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