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December 2nd, 2017, 03:11 PM
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Just a quick question about the ACP and bucklers. I'm putting together a rapier + buckler wielding bard at the moment. With DEX 16 and Weapon Finesse, at 1st level, the character has a +3 to attack with the rapier.
If I activate the buckler in her off hand, because of the -1 ACP of the buckler, her attack drops to +2. Is this correct? I understood that the ACP only applied to attacks if the character didn't have the appropriate shield/armour proficiency, but as a bard, she should automatically have "Shield Proficiency". A similar penalty doesn't occur to any other shield-using class that I can see (fighters, clerics, etc) - have I missed some subtle rule thing here, or is it an actual bug? |
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Senior Member
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December 2nd, 2017, 03:32 PM
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ACP from shields (including bucklers) is applied to attack rolls when using Weapon Finesse.
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December 2nd, 2017, 03:32 PM
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This isn't a bug - look at the description for the Weapon Finesse feat: "If you carry a shield, its ACP applies to your attack rolls."
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December 2nd, 2017, 03:39 PM
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I'll also note that if you upgrade to a masterwork buckler (admittedly tough to do at level 1), the penalty will technically still apply, but it will be reduced to zero.
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December 2nd, 2017, 04:05 PM
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Ah, thanks folks. Didn't think to check the feat. Masterwork buckler it is.
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