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Old January 26th, 2018, 02:35 AM
I very much doubt it's LWD controlling this. Keep in mind they pay a license fee to use content under the terms and agreements of said license.

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Old January 26th, 2018, 04:30 AM
Then they've negotiated a bad license agreement.
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Old January 26th, 2018, 07:56 AM
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No 6 people can't simultaneously use a book but they can pass that book round the table and note down their information on their character sheets very quickly, something you would not be able to do with HLO even with one device since you would have to swap in and out of character sheets. Saas should make things easier and more convenient not harder.


One username and password for multiple people, as you say same family is intended, is absolutely appalling security principles.

As a GM i would quite happily buy an additional CAL subscription only fee for the book to enable my players to build their character sheets from my "book" as they would do in
real life, it's a shame that Lone Wolf seem to just want to gouge people with their unfinished product. Glad I've requested a refund. Shame cos it looks good and could be really useful
If they were to allow this, it would effectively be reducing their potential sales by 80%, what sane business would allow this. You can't do this with HL right now either, unless your doing it illegally.

Personally, I would like to see LWD stay in business and not shoot themselves in the foot.
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Old January 26th, 2018, 08:01 AM
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You guys should really create a way that both you and the customers are happy with to enable the GM to share with their table. GMs will quite often open their pockets to ensure their players are playing using the technology that the GM wants to use.

D&D Beyond have done really well in this regards with the ability to share books.
I don't think D&D Beyond is a an apples to apples comparison. D&D Beyond is more WotC than LWD is Paizo. I also didn't see mention of support for multiple RPG game systems on D&D Beyond.

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Old January 26th, 2018, 08:05 AM
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Then they've negotiated a bad license agreement.
So you speculate on someones speculation.. Typically when you license access to something you pay per instance. Amazon has to pay the publisher for each digital book sold. Did they negotiate a bad license too?

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Old January 26th, 2018, 10:28 AM
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No 6 people can't simultaneously use a book but they can pass that book round the table and note down their information on their character sheets very quickly, something you would not be able to do with HLO even with one device since you would have to swap in and out of character sheets. Saas should make things easier and more convenient not harder.
Print to PDF, and then make annotations with a suitable PDF reader?

That sounds like the electronic equivalent of the same.

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Old January 26th, 2018, 11:26 AM
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I very much doubt it's LWD controlling this. Keep in mind they pay a license fee to use content under the terms and agreements of said license.
Fantasy Grounds allows sharing of the DMís purchased Pathfinder content while the PCís are in game so I would very much doubt itís a license restriction.
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Old January 26th, 2018, 11:32 AM
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If they were to allow this, it would effectively be reducing their potential sales by 80%, what sane business would allow this. You can't do this with HL right now either, unless your doing it illegally.

Personally, I would like to see LWD stay in business and not shoot themselves in the foot.
I donít agree with your logic on this. I would argue that the vast majority of your so called ďpotential salesĒ are people who would never pony up the money for HLO in the first place. Giving GMís the ability to buy additional licenses for these types of players opens an entirely new revenue stream for LWD.
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Old January 26th, 2018, 01:25 PM
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Fantasy Grounds allows sharing of the DMís purchased Pathfinder content while the PCís are in game so I would very much doubt itís a license restriction.
This is different than the use case mentioned. In this case the players have to be in a "game", HLO has no concept of a "game" right now. Hopefully with the advent of group play features this will change, in this case LWD will probably need to negotiate this use case with Paizo.

In addition, fantasy grounds needs to be purchased by all players for $39 or the GM ponies up $149.
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Old January 26th, 2018, 01:27 PM
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I donít agree with your logic on this. I would argue that the vast majority of your so called ďpotential salesĒ are people who would never pony up the money for HLO in the first place. Giving GMís the ability to buy additional licenses for these types of players opens an entirely new revenue stream for LWD.
What? $10/license revenue? That is not a stream, more like a one time drip.
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