How do i make a Magic item that makes a skill Trained?

[Orateck]

I need help makeing a magic item that Gives a +5 Circumstance Bonus to Knowladge Arcana and make it a Trained Skill, the skill bonus is easy but makeing it trained isent, can anyone help me out?

[Mathias]

Normally, in order to be a trained in a skill, that skill needs a rank. Do you want to add a free rank to the skill, which would mean that it's now a trained skill, or do you want to remove the "trained only" restriction from the skill, meaning someone with no ranks in the skill can now make rolls in that skill?

[Orateck]

more remove the restriction from the skill so long as the item is equiped

[Mathias]

Can you think of any base classes, who, at 1st level, get to make all knowledge checks untrained?

Find the Class Special tab in the editor - use the "New (Copy)" button at the bottom left of the editor to make a copy of that ability, and take a look at its script. Things will be somewhat different, since that's making all knowledges usable untrained, but the action you want to do is the same.

[Orateck]

Thats what i normaly do but i'm drawing a blank

[Mathias]

What I was trying to hint at was the Bard's Bardic Knowledge ability.

Here's the relevant script (pre-attributes/10000):

      ~if we're not the first copy, just get out now
      doneif (tagis[Helper.FirstCopy] = 0)

      ~if we're not shown, just get out now
      doneif (tagis[Helper.ShowSpec] = 0)

      ~ If we're disabled, do nothing
      doneif (tagis[Helper.SpcDisable] <> 0)

      foreach pick in hero from BaseSkill where "Helper.SkCatKnow"
        eachpick.field[Bonus].value += field[abValue].value
        perform eachpick.delete[Helper.TrainOnly]
        nexteach

See anything in there related to being trained only?

[Orateck]

ah i see, i'm not realy that good with hero labs scripting, i normaly just do it through trial and error

[Orateck]

oh great now i cant even access herolab, for some reason i couldent connect to the Update, said Updates error, so i uninstalled and went to reinstall but i cant even DL the hero lab off the website

[Mathias]

The server that handles updates and purchases is out today. When you see that sort of thing, just ignore the fact that it didn't find any updates, and use HL anyway.

[Mathias]

When you originally downloaded HL, did it save a copy of the installer before installing?