paladin mount HD off?

tc7 · January 18th, 2011, 07:42 PM

Ok so I have a 9th level paladin made in Hero lab shining knight archetype, when I pick paladin mount as my divine bond it only creates it with 8HD even though im 9th level. Also it is a horse not a heavy horse, if there a way to add the heavy horse template?

Thazar · January 19th, 2011, 12:04 AM

This is all correct. A Paladin with a mount for his/her bond use the druid chart for animal companion and the sub rules for horse within that section.

Sendric · January 19th, 2011, 06:06 AM

You can add the Advanced Creature - Animal template in the Classes tab and increase the damage dice for the hooves using the Other Adjustments feature (Weapon Damage Bonus) to create a heavy horse.

Thazar · January 19th, 2011, 12:11 PM

Well Hero Lab does allow this, note that the horse is correct as coded per PFRPG rules. Animal Companions follow their own rules and advancement and are not directly related to anything fromt he Bestiary. The horse already advanced in HD, STR, and damage on the chart as it exists now.

tc7 · January 19th, 2011, 01:12 PM

Ok so it is stated as a heavy horse.

Why is the HD 8 instead of 9 though?

Mathias · January 19th, 2011, 01:24 PM

On the Animal Companion table on pg 52 of the PH, compare the first column, "Class Level" to the second column, "HD" - they're not the same.

tc7 · January 19th, 2011, 06:25 PM

oh wow I totally looked in the wrong column, ok thanks

Thazar · January 19th, 2011, 09:46 PM

No worries, as we have all been there.

the main thing to keep in mind is that the animal companions get what is on that chart or on the specific section under the animal name stating what is given at level one and then 4/7 upgrade. Trying to compare them to the bestiary is going to be off as they are not the same as a normal animal.

zarberg · March 19th, 2013, 09:04 AM

A tiny bit off topic, is there any way to automatically have the Divine Grace bonus added to the mount when the Shining Knight archetype paladin is listed as mounted on said mount? It doesn't seem to do this right now.

tc7 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 17 January 18th, 2011, 07:42 PM	Ok so I have a 9th level paladin made in Hero lab shining knight archetype, when I pick paladin mount as my divine bond it only creates it with 8HD even though im 9th level. Also it is a horse not a heavy horse, if there a way to add the heavy horse template?
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Thazar Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Sunny WA State Posts: 141 January 19th, 2011, 12:04 AM	This is all correct. A Paladin with a mount for his/her bond use the druid chart for animal companion and the sub rules for horse within that section.
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Sendric Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,147 January 19th, 2011, 06:06 AM	You can add the Advanced Creature - Animal template in the Classes tab and increase the damage dice for the hooves using the Other Adjustments feature (Weapon Damage Bonus) to create a heavy horse.
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Mathias Senior Member Lone Wolf Staff Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 13,213 January 19th, 2011, 01:24 PM	On the Animal Companion table on pg 52 of the PH, compare the first column, "Class Level" to the second column, "HD" - they're not the same.
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Thazar Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Sunny WA State Posts: 141 January 19th, 2011, 09:46 PM	No worries, as we have all been there. the main thing to keep in mind is that the animal companions get what is on that chart or on the specific section under the animal name stating what is given at level one and then 4/7 upgrade. Trying to compare them to the bestiary is going to be off as they are not the same as a normal animal.
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zarberg Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 20 March 19th, 2013, 09:04 AM	A tiny bit off topic, is there any way to automatically have the Divine Grace bonus added to the mount when the Shining Knight archetype paladin is listed as mounted on said mount? It doesn't seem to do this right now.
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