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Shadow... admit it was my bad. used to the updates saying what was needed, not needed, etc. Issue I have reported to HL, but the updates and community packs do not show as "new". the rename also threw me for a loop. couple party members having issues with their Mac installs, but will let them deal with that. For anyone else following... One of the main things to consider is the Configure Hero and make sure you ALL have the same settings...
Good work on all this BTW...
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