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Farling September 18th, 2020 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbs666 (Post 290901)
Mandatory subscription models are, to be nice about it, hated.

But for a product with such a small niche market, perhaps a necessary evil.

Substitution September 20th, 2020 11:19 AM

Today my friend mentioned World Anvil which sparked this memory for me.
I had just reformatted my computer so I went to redownload Realm Works today as I hadn't opened it in a year and wanted to see if it had been brought up to a useable standard after 7 years, but the link says that it cannot be downloaded securely by Google Chrome which makes me hesitant.

It's a shame how many things are conspiring against Realm Works success. The primary one is likely the psychological fear its failure has instilled in the developers that leads to hiding from it for more than a year at a time. Avoidance is a good way of maintaining good psychological health, but it doesn't improve the product to a marketable point or brainstorm monetization ideas.

I liked the bold and courageous attitude that once led to multiple statements of confidence like:
Quote:

Remember, we've been developing Realm Works for almost three years now. That stuff in the video isn't a bunch of prototypes or an unrealizable vision that you might have seen in other Kickstarters.
It is interesting to think of what could have been with a stronger integration to Hero Labs and a more presentable software. Now unfortunately the world is too different and the market much more saturated with subscription models that make more profit.

Exmortis September 21st, 2020 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kbs666 (Post 290901)
I really do not mind those who are most interested paying for the new features that will bring in new users.

Mandatory subscription models are, to be nice about it, hated.

Maybe, but reality around us shows they are successful, so much so almost everything is using them.

it does not have to be mandatory, if you don't pay you don't get updates, make it yearly so you pay for a year to get updates (could be monthly payment but 1 year term).

I guess my friend what do you hate more? RW left to rot in the annals of gaming history, or spending a few bucks and see it to fruition?

I get Robs statement, RW doesn't generate enough money to bring in a profit, business don't survive on air, they need profits. So, a sub model maybe the way for RW to bring in a modest cash flow for modest development. There is hope that improved RW will then generate more subs.

But I ask Rob to remember for some us, RW is not a $50 piece of software, add up my subs, initial purchase and my store purchases it represents a much larger investment. Hence greater disappointment (not enough to warrant personal attacks however).

Maidhc O Casain September 21st, 2020 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Exmortis (Post 290931)
But I ask Rob to remember for some us, RW is not a $50 piece of software, add up my subs, initial purchase and my store purchases it represents a much larger investment. Hence greater disappointment (not enough to warrant personal attacks however).

This. No personal attacks here - I get it. But I did back the Kickstarter at the Alpha Wolf level, so quite a substantial investment even before store purchases.

Twistedtechmike September 30th, 2020 05:59 AM

+1 here for a Patreon, or subscription model for Realm Works development.

We no longer play Pathfinder, even though I spent a small fortune in HLC, leaving RW the only software I am currently using, and I have yet to see anything else compare to its funcationality.

pyremius September 30th, 2020 06:03 AM

Same here - and the alpha wolf level was specifically to avoid dealing with a subscription.

nightpanda2810 October 21st, 2020 06:04 AM

Rob, it's been a while. We could use some sort of update here.

Farling October 22nd, 2020 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by nightpanda2810 (Post 291495)
Rob, it's been a while. We could use some sort of update here.

Software update or Status update?
There won't have been any of either.

nightpanda2810 October 24th, 2020 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Farling (Post 291511)
Software update or Status update?
There won't have been any of either.

Anything. There have been quite a few responses since his last post, and its been almost 2 months.

Exmortis October 26th, 2020 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by nightpanda2810 (Post 291546)
Anything. There have been quite a few responses since his last post, and its been almost 2 months.

This has all happened before, and it will happen again.


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