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robert March 31st, 2006 06:09 PM

Call for help! (also new files release :~)
 
hi! first i have released new files with bug fixes and stuff like cursed company, rhinox cavalry, etc etc etc etc

secondly. while the files are up to date with "official" material - the things in army books - they are behind in things like optional units, some special characters etc etc. i am going to post a threadin a minute that compiles a lits of all the ones still to be added, because there are so many i have lots track of them :~(

so. i need YOUR help. i need YOU to help get the optional things added, like the special characters and so on. please help! if you want, you will need:

1 the rules for the characters
2 the ab constructionkit which you can download

and the initiative to look at things that have already been written, and copy them!

i have asked the lonewolf guys to help people with this, so they will be hereto answer questions about stuff if we need them.

if you will be willing to help, please post her!e the warhammer files need you!!!!!!! :~)

martyg April 1st, 2006 01:19 PM

Fixes
 
I'm in. Give me a task list.

Marty

osito April 2nd, 2006 12:52 PM

I will maybe be able to help if I get som instructions on how to work around the AB creator.

deathlynx April 3rd, 2006 10:21 AM

Best thing to do to learn ABC is to read the docs thuroughly that come with it...While you do that wander through various game systems which you play and try to figure out where all of the rules, special abilities and weapons are being placed into the unit...between the two you will have the basics of ABC...
I can completely understand about docs not helping...I was one of the beta testers for 3.0 and am not the kind of person who learns well from books but rather from doing, so one of the two methods (trial and error or reading the docs) should help a lot...

osito April 3rd, 2006 12:34 PM

Ok, thanks. Will try to take some time for this!

taskmage April 3rd, 2006 07:32 PM

More than happy to contribute.

robert April 7th, 2006 04:13 PM

thanks guys!!! :~)

if you want to help, a good way to start is the following

1 download the authoring kit
2 do the abcreator tutorial
3 open the warhammer files and try to make something work!!!

the best way to try is experience...

if you have problems post here abiut them and i will try to answer you!!

osito April 8th, 2006 01:45 AM

ok! Will try! My personal goal is Gotrek & Felix! ;)

ChainsawXIV April 10th, 2006 03:53 PM

Just to avoid duplicating work, I’ve got the following items done or in progress, and will be forwarding them to Robert as they become ready. As you can see I’ve got several projects under way, but my friends keep asking me to add things for them, heh. Anyhow, I’ve got these covered and should have them done before too long. I can also very quickly add other characters that people want – the main thing that takes time is fancy validation and inter-related unit rules like those on the two Dwarfs below.

Already Done
• VC Army of the Cairns (White Dwarf 310)
• Heinrich Kemmler (Alt Version, White Dwarf 309)
• Klawmunkast, Warlock Master (Online)
• Neferata, Queen of Vampires (Online)

In Progress
• Skaven Hellpit Army (White Dwarf 310)
• Skaven Doom Wheel (Online)
• Skaven Rat Tank (Online)
• Ungrim Ironfist (Storm of Chaos)
• Garagrim Ironfist (Storm of Chaos)

droidman April 11th, 2006 01:44 AM

I have done Durthu from WD 309

osito April 14th, 2006 04:53 AM

Working on Gotrek & Felix, don't know if I will manage to make them but I'll try ;) Were should I put them? In the dogs of War or a seperate file and just mail them to Robert?

deathlynx April 14th, 2006 10:13 AM

You could always just "forget" to add those two! :wink:

Deathlynx (Who's still scarred by those two taking on and anihilating an entire unit of 12+ Black Knights, plus Wight Lord all by their lonesome) :lol:

osito April 14th, 2006 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathlynx
You could always just "forget" to add those two! :wink:

Deathlynx (Who's still scarred by those two taking on and anihilating an entire unit of 12+ Black Knights, plus Wight Lord all by their lonesome) :lol:

That is the reason I won't "forget" them! :D

robert April 14th, 2006 12:44 PM

putting them in the dogs of war file is fine, thanks!!!

osito April 14th, 2006 02:11 PM

ok, almost done. Just a few problems left...

droidman April 18th, 2006 10:44 PM

I've finished Durthu, where do I send the edited woodelves.dat file?

robert April 21st, 2006 01:49 PM

please email them to robert@datafilesrus.com!! thanks!!!!

robert April 21st, 2006 03:48 PM

thanks for the files chainsaw!!! :~)

osito April 26th, 2006 12:28 AM

My work with Gotrek & Felix is almost done. Have a flew issuses.
First: How should I display them? Now they are displayed like list:
Gotrek & Felix (Squad)
- Gotrek & Felix
-- Gotrek
-- Felix

I can get felix to be under gotrek but then I really want both to be under the same squad on the same level.

Seconed: How do you give felix 3/5 attacks? I have tryed to just write it but it just shows 3.

ChainsawXIV April 26th, 2006 07:15 PM

I'm not sure how to get them into the same unit by default (although I'm pretty sure it is possible), but in order to get Felix's attacks to show up correctly, you'll want to set his base attacks to three, and add the two bonus attacks from his magic weapon on the item itself. In the Prelink script for the item, add the line: unit.stat[At] = unit.stat[At] + 2

osito April 27th, 2006 03:12 AM

Thanks!

Now to another problem. How do I prevent/allow armys to take Gotrek & Felix? As it is now, all armys that can take Dogs of War can take Gotrek & Felix, inkluding Chaos. Bretonnia is not alowed to have Dogs of War but they are alowed to have Gotrek & Felix?

Any simple way to solve this?

ChainsawXIV April 27th, 2006 06:41 PM

There sure is. There are two main things that determine when a unit appears and when it doesn’t.

First, make sure you set their race, by giving them the DogsOfWar Tag from the Race Tag Group.

Second, you can use the Membership expression on the unit to exclude them with more detail by specifying all of the rule sets they do not appear in. You can look at Al Muktar's Desert Dogs for a good example of this. To find the names of the rule sets, look in the .aug files for the armies in question, under the Ruleset tab.

ChainsawXIV April 27th, 2006 07:23 PM

Just a note, I managed to come across the same squad issue you were having with Gotrek and Felix when I went to do Vlad and Isabella VanCarstien. I dug and the problem some more, but couldn't figure it out, so I put up the question on the tech support forum. Keep an eye on that for further insight on that issue.

Link: http://support.wolflair.com/index.ph...&p=20578#20578

osito April 28th, 2006 01:27 AM

Thanks! They should be done by the weekend!

osito April 28th, 2006 02:08 PM

Now it's done!

ChainsawXIV April 30th, 2006 12:14 PM

Just sent a big package of new stuff and fixes to Robert.

New Special Characters
• Added Deathmaster Snikch for Skaven armies
• Added Ikit Claw, Chief Warlock for Skaven armies
• Added Lord Skrolk for Skaven armies
• Added Warlord Queek Head-Taker for Skaven armies
• Added Melkhior for Vampire Counts armies
• Added Vlad and Isabella for Vampire Counts armies
• Added Morbus Sanguis, Plague Lord, for Skaven armies
• Added Castelian Goritch for Skaven armies

New Army Sub Type
• Added the Hellpit army of Skaven Clan Moulder

New Skaven Units
• Warpstone Mutants for use with Klawmunkast
• Warpstone Rat Tank for use with Klawmunkast
• Yellow Plague Rat Swarm option for use with Morbus

Skaven Unit Fixes
• Special Characters are now compatable with Grey Seers

Special Character Fixes
• Klawmunkast is no longer restricted to Skryre armies
• Klawmunkast now validates his special composition rules
• Special characters are now properly flagged as such
• Kemmler the Lichemaster should now filter properly

Vampire Counts Fixes
• The Black Coach now has a squad name
• Cairns unit champion upgrades now have costs
• Cairns now should allow champions at max size
• Set Simulacra to have a unit strength of three

osito May 2nd, 2006 01:11 PM

Are there any more work to be done? It's not good doing duplicates ;) Hand me a couple and I shall see what I can do...

ChainsawXIV May 3rd, 2006 03:55 PM

Other than the two Slayer characters from SoC my list is empty. I'm sure there's lots more we could add, but seems like it would work best if we went from a list of stuff people had requested.

robert May 5th, 2006 06:01 PM

:O

thanks a million guys!! i will start adding these :~)

Kamarathin June 24th, 2006 09:55 AM

ChainsawXIV: Is there a possibility that you could make the Army of the Cairns not need Kemmler and Krell for Warbands (much like VC don't need a spellcaster)?

Actually, the entire army isn't gearede for Warbands. Would it be possible to do so?

ChainsawXIV June 30th, 2006 08:22 PM

That seems reasonable, yeah. I'll have a loot at it, but I probably won't be able to get it done until after I come back from my vacation, so it will be a weak or so at least. Sorry for the delay.

ChainsawXIV June 30th, 2006 09:02 PM

I had a little bit of time after all :) Just sent in the following updates.

Skaven Unit Fixes
• Verminlord is now compatable with Grey Seers
• Verminlord no longer displays magic item options
• Chimaerat now only shows for Hellpit armies
• The Rat Tank now filters more appropriately
• Hellpit armies now check for compulsory characters
• Non-Hellpit armies no longer require Throt or Gorritch
• Bubonic Court armies now ignore mainstay rules
• Undated Ikit Claw's description regarding validation
• The Warlord's pistol option now validates as such
• Hellpit armies can now properly take two rat swarms
• Hellpit army units now have warband verteran options
• Warbands no longer require Throt or Ghoritch

Vampire Counts Unit Fixes
• Melkhior no longer appears in Cairns armies
• Vlad and Isibella no longer appear in Cairns armies
• Cairns army heroes now show magic item totals
• Cairns army units now have warband veteran options
• Krell no longer appears in the list for Warbands
• Warbands no longer require Krell and Kemmler

osito July 2nd, 2006 05:50 AM

As noted in another topic, I have mailed Mengils Manflayers and som minor fixes in Bretonnian concerning dog of war... I have also some tutch up work on Gotrek & Felix.

Kamarathin July 16th, 2006 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChainsawXIV
I had a little bit of time after all :) Just sent in the following updates.

Skaven Unit Fixes
• Verminlord is now compatable with Grey Seers
• Verminlord no longer displays magic item options
• Chimaerat now only shows for Hellpit armies
• The Rat Tank now filters more appropriately
• Hellpit armies now check for compulsory characters
• Non-Hellpit armies no longer require Throt or Gorritch
• Bubonic Court armies now ignore mainstay rules
• Undated Ikit Claw's description regarding validation
• The Warlord's pistol option now validates as such
• Hellpit armies can now properly take two rat swarms
• Hellpit army units now have warband verteran options
• Warbands no longer require Throt or Ghoritch

Vampire Counts Unit Fixes
• Melkhior no longer appears in Cairns armies
• Vlad and Isibella no longer appear in Cairns armies
• Cairns army heroes now show magic item totals
• Cairns army units now have warband veteran options
• Krell no longer appears in the list for Warbands
• Warbands no longer require Krell and Kemmler

w00t! Thanks Chainsaw!

robert July 17th, 2006 12:06 PM

thanks guys!! i will get these added :~)

ChainsawXIV July 28th, 2006 05:09 PM

Some additional updates submitted:

New Army Subtype
• Added the Zombie Pirates of the Vampire Coast

Skaven Unit Fixes
• Characters invalidate when picked more than once

Vampire Counts Unit Fixes
• Characters invalidate when picked more than once
• Unquiet Horsemen now have Unit Strength two
• Unquiet Horsemen's mounts now increment properly
• Barrow King's chariot now has two horses
• Cairn's army Winged Nightmare now has Impale

ChainsawXIV September 21st, 2006 07:28 AM

*pokes the thread*
Did you get this last update alright Robert?

robert September 21st, 2006 10:45 AM

hi,

yes i got them :~) i have them all integrated and will release new files tomorrow

thanks!!

ChainsawXIV September 22nd, 2006 07:45 AM

Sweet! :) Zombies... with... GUNS!!!

robert September 22nd, 2006 02:11 PM

raaaaaagrgh brains


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