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Save DCs occasionally seem incorrect...

Unseelie

Well-known member
So I'm working on a stat block for a Gibbering Mouther from Bestiary and the save DCs for Gibbering and Spittle don't seem to match the Bestiary entry.

Am I missing something simple here, or is there a problem?

Gibbering (DC 19) (Su) As a free action, a gibbering mouther can emit a cacophony of maddening sound. All creatures other than gibbering mouthers within 60 feet must succeed on a DC 13 Will save or be confused for 1 round. This is a mindaffecting compulsion insanity effect. A creature that saves cannot be affected by the same mouther’s gibbering for 24 hours. The save DC is Constitution-based.

Spittle (DC 19) (Ex) Each round as a free action, a gibbering mouther can emit a stream of acidic spittle at one target within 30 feet. On a successful attack, the target is blinded for 1d4 rounds unless he succeeds on a DC 18 Fortitude save. The save DC is Constitution-based.
 
it appears to be a matter of paizo not following their own rules when creating a monster. The save DC 19 is the correct DC for a 4HD monster w/ a +7 stat bonus. Its my guess that that number is being automatically generated by HL. While the text is the numbers from the bestiary.
C.
 
Ninja'd but here's the formula

4HD gibbering mouther! 24 Con (+7)

Base DC 10 + 1/2 HD + stat modifier

10+2+7(con)= 19

Text is wrong formula is correct. Both DC's should be DC19 not 13 and 18.
 
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