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talsharien
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Starfinder and HL Online
There has been a lot of discussion around Hero Lab Online and Starfinder being used as the flagship and beta for it (i have read through your facebook BJ thanks for the info).
Does this mean that Starfinder will not arrive until HL online or will a legacy version be available first?
We are working hard to bring Starfinder character creation to everyone by the end of the month.
There has been a lot of discussion around Hero Lab Online and Starfinder being used as the flagship and beta for it (i have read through your facebook BJ thanks for the info).
Does this mean that Starfinder will not arrive until HL online or will a legacy version be available first?
Based on BJ's facebook pre-FAQ, Starfinder will not be coming to Hero Lab and only to Hero Lab Online.
talsharien
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So why tell us on the 3rd of the month that they will have starfinder before the end of the month. I am pretty sure that Hero Lab online was not conceived after this date!
Because they are working hard to bring you Starfinder...as part of Hero Lab Online.
While answering questions on BJ's Facebook page, BJ and Aaron confirmed that Starfinder is (at the present time, plans subject to change, etc.) only for Hero Lab Online and will not be coming to desktop Hero Lab.
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karpomatic
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I just saw the same comment myself. Starfinder will be for HLO for the foreseeable future.
talsharien
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Yes this is what I saw too, I am not disputing what has been stated, but I would like an explanation as to why this has changed since the original post on the 3rd August.
karpomatic
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I don't think anything has changed. They said Starfinder would drop at the end of the month but neglected to say how it would drop. We now know it's HLO that is dropping. Personally, I think it sucks that it won't be for the desktop version anytime soon (if ever) but I understand. Why make so many different versions of the same system when all these systems access the same internet. As much as I don't like subscription services, I don't mind paying $2 a month for access. Maybe there will be discounts if you pay more up front.
talsharien
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Yeah that makes sense, and as you say the subscription fee seems pretty reasonable. After all, the thought of using another program whilst GM'ing kinda feels me with dread.
Winterfyre
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I believe they said it would drop at the end of this month, but are now stating a beta starts end of next month for a select few with most people not having access until later, and with HLO being entirely new, much much later is a possibility.
They've also refused to clarify any of the pertinent details requested except that it will be a HLO only release.
You will still need to buy data packs.
You will also need to pay a subscription.
Rumors abound though.
It may be an online internet connection required all the time release.
You may not be able to use the data packs you paid for if your subscription runs out.
Subscription could increase (will increase. Subscriptions ALWAYS increase in price)
Online product could cease to work at all if server / company goes down (unlike current product)
It may be web browser based, which could be heavily affected by bandwidth.
All of that's bad.
The only upsides I've seen rumored are
They can do spaceships (apparently impossible in current version)
Using a web browser based system may mean we can use android tablets.
ALL of which I would have liked to have had at least some hint at before gencon and sinking $200+ into starfinder.
talsharien
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I seriously doubt that LW are going to alienate their entire customer base and it seems that a lot of negative points are being covered here. Going online makes a lot of sense in some respects if not all.
My original and still unanswered gripe is that a post was made on the 3rd of August stating that Starfinder support would be brought to us by the end of the month (August therefore based on the language and grammar of the statement). It is highly unlikely that a HLO release schedule was contrived in 3 weeks (such a thing will have been in the planning before August 3rd), so why promise something that won't happen.
It is pretty frustrating and makes me feel a little let down to be honest.
My original and still unanswered gripe is that a post was made on the 3rd of August stating that Starfinder support would be brought to us by the end of the month (August therefore based on the language and grammar of the statement). It is highly unlikely that a HLO release schedule was contrived in 3 weeks (such a thing will have been in the planning before August 3rd), so why promise something that won't happen.
It is pretty frustrating and makes me feel a little let down to be honest.
Development timelines slip sometimes, especially with big projects, sorry about that.
talsharien
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This is the answer in waiting for as well and the only real reason I've seen is starships which doesn't really seem to make sense
People cried foul about the upgrade of Windows XP but ultimately software gets dated and needs to be refreshed in order to utilize new technology that consumers expect in this era we live in.
A hell of alot has changed in regards to technology and how people use it since HL launched. The consumer base have been screaming for Hero Lab to support more devices and we are getting what we asked for, just in a way that is technically and financially viable for a small company like LWD to provide.
I think LWD are doing a clever thing here that will ultimately make their product a viable and popular option for many more years to come.
A hell of alot has changed in regards to technology and how people use it since HL launched. The consumer base have been screaming for Hero Lab to support more devices and we are getting what we asked for, just in a way that is technically and financially viable for a small company like LWD to provide.
I think LWD are doing a clever thing here that will ultimately make their product a viable and popular option for many more years to come.
Nothing has changed, we are still planning on having Starfinder out very soon, it will still be the launch system for Hero Lab Online.
We would love to accommodate every single customer we have, but we simply are not a big enough team to build a new program for every device/need, this is the best answer we have and we truly believe it will be amazing once you get to know it!
Yes, we will absolutely be giving a discount! If you purchase a year subscription it's all of $24.99. We want to keep the rates as low as possible, our goal is NOT to charge a lot, we aren't doing content prices differently, it will still cost the same as Hero Lab Classic and you will have access to the Classic version as well if you want to use the files in both when possible! You buy the system once, you buy the content once. This isn't a "cash grab". We are charging a very small fee for using our service so that we can continue to provide you with character creation and campaign management services far into the future.
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