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Hero Lab Online
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As nice as this idea sounds (and looks), I'm wondering about two things for HLO:
1- Will there be some form of an "offline mode" for a just-in-case a user loses 'net access (signal dropped, power outage, etc.)?
2- Will there be some benefit for those of us who have paid for normal Hero Lab, whether that be purchases transferring over between the two or a discount on Hero Lab Online?
1- Will there be some form of an "offline mode" for a just-in-case a user loses 'net access (signal dropped, power outage, etc.)?
2- Will there be some benefit for those of us who have paid for normal Hero Lab, whether that be purchases transferring over between the two or a discount on Hero Lab Online?
But what about the people that bought multiple licenses for other devices, I have 5 licenses currently, laptop, IPad, wife's surface, my PC, and my son's PC. I paid for licenses, so I had availability to Hero labs on any one of those devices. sharing the .por via Dropbox.
What becomes of people like me that have hundreds of dollars invested over years, do all the monthly subs get the same access I paid for bit by bit as the releases came out or as a book had something I wanted in them? I saw that LWD had posted in the data sets a complete catch up for pathfinder for 375 bucks, over time that comes down to about 50 bucks a years since I bought HL but all at once is a pretty sizable chunk of change to drop, are people going to have to buy in for access on HLO?
Having it accessible is great but people paid good money over the last umpteen years to keep LWD alive and producing content that we wanted/needed.
I am checking in everyday to find out if something new has come out about Starfinder, or HLO, because I want to know what I can expect from them. I plan to add the Starfinder package, if I can just purchase the data set and use it with my already owned licenses. I guess I'll have to wait out the weekend to hear the skinny after GenCon
I definitely would not want to subscribe now after owning hundreds of dollars in content. But for someone new coming in to Pathfinder a subscription would be very attractive.
Online Direct.----Booooooo--- I say bad form. I think this would force a change to a subscription model. and us poor gamers are cheap. If it goes subscription, I guess I'm going back to formfill pdfs. Unless you can avoid the whole subscription thing, and still support the old purchase to own setup. and have offline access.
Most companies that convert from perpetual to subscription models typically offer a "conversion" to the new offering. Otherwise they risk alienating/losing their current install base. For LWD, there core model is selling data sets...no new data set, no incremental revenue. Converting to sub establishes a far more consistent revenue stream. I would not be surprised to see a model similar to the one DDB just released...a core sub fee w/ the option to purchase additional content. Personally, I have no issues with this model, subject to the actual prices involved.
My biggest question is how they'll handle offline access/utility. I would much rather have the data sync to device so that I don't need to be dependent on their server.
My biggest question is how they'll handle offline access/utility. I would much rather have the data sync to device so that I don't need to be dependent on their server.
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While we hope for the best for Hero Lab, we at PCGen will welcome any offline only users that Hero Lab loses.
Also Starfinder is coming Soon(TM) to PCGen.
Excellent! I look forward to seeing how well you support Call of Cthulhu, Mutants and Masterminds, FATE, Savage Worlds, all the community additions to Pathfinder that currently exist for Hero Lab, and the ability to migrate all the custom content I've added to my own copies of FATE and Pathfinder for Hero Lab.
I mean, if you're coming here trying to compete, you DO offer similar functionality and support, right?
Pretty sure they don't, plus a crappy interface to boot. I used PCGen for a year, and it never seemed to get anything right for my wizard, switched to Hero lab a couple years ago and never looked back. Plus it doesn't have the tactical console and the pre-generated adventure path encounters to import.
I know. I was being just a little snarky, because I think it's bad form to advertise one product on another product's forum. I've used PCGen as well, and I won't knock it. But if I had a competing product, I wouldn't go to their forums touting its virtues.
It's one thing if I, as a user, go to a forum discussing other products I use (assuming the rules of the forum don't forbid that.) It's quite another to advertise your own product on a competitor's forum.
While we hope for the best for Hero Lab, we at PCGen will welcome any offline only users that Hero Lab loses.
Also Starfinder is coming Soon(TM) to PCGen.
All Class.
Just removed that bookmark. HLO may or may not be my next gaming character gen software, but it has one less competitor now.
While we hope for the best for Hero Lab, we at PCGen will welcome any offline only users that Hero Lab loses.
Also Starfinder is coming Soon(TM) to PCGen.
Well hey, thanks for the well wishes! Not to worry, we have no intention of advertising in your spaces and wish you the very best with PCGen.
A quick update! I just finished a nearly 2000 word FAQ for everyone, but it's 2am where I live and I have to be awake at 7am, so I'll be posting it some time tomorrow after a quick edit. I apologize for the delay, I wanted to get everyone info asap but the virus I acquired at the con really slowed down my processing speeds.
If you're looking for somewhat unofficial answers you can stop by my personal Facebook page and read up on the crazy Hero Lab Online questions thread. Just mind your manners if you decide to chime in. That's my personal page, not affiliated with LWD.
If you're looking for somewhat unofficial answers you can stop by my personal Facebook page and read up on the crazy Hero Lab Online questions thread. Just mind your manners if you decide to chime in. That's my personal page, not affiliated with LWD.
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