I love how the paying customer has been and continues to be less important than the potential customer for LWD. All of the release information should have been posted here. No, all of the release information should have been posted here already and updated regularly. It shouldn't have to come 2nd or 3rd hand from a convention that a small minority of gamers attend or have any real interest in.
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So, IF we're lucky (those dates have been pushed back before) i might be able to copy my own realm in march next year? If so, that makes me sad.
Oh, and i agree with AEIOU, as a working man with 2 kids, i dont have the spare time to fly from Europe to attend a conference to get future info on RW. Heck, i even dont have the time to rewrite all my campaign info to another realm so i can dm them simultaneously.
Luckily, cash is not an problem, so i will be starting to look for alternatives (as said before). March (or worse) is too far away for me. Too bad...
Had to get this off my chest.
Sorry for bad grammar (Netherlands here).
Folks, just to be clear, I was doing a seminar here at GenCon, and I outlined a few very basic elements of the plan - BUT NOTHING SPECIFIC. And, more importantly, if you harken back to the June update that I posted here on these very forums (and that's stickied at the top of every page), you'll find the following paragraph...
As I laid out in the late-April update, the Content Market itself will be rolled out in multiple stages. Please do not expect everything to suddenly become available in one mammoth release, since that’s not going to happen. We’ll be introducing assorted Content Market capabilities incrementally, starting with more basic things and then adding more complexity. This way, we can deploy everything in manageable chunks and ensure that everything works well in Phase #1 before progressing to Phase #2, and so on. We’ll similarly be starting with a small number of content options for purchase, then adding more over time.
So, aside from saying that we're now targeting October to start everything, there was NOTHING NEW. All I did was reiterate to everyone there what has already been communicated here, both in April and in June. And @pollution drew his own GUESSES based on that information. He even clearly stated that they were predictions in his post.
I'll accept criticism about things we've done poorly or wrong, but I take exception when we're villified for something that is utterly untrue. And this one really has no basis in fact.
Edit: The seminar was targeted to existing users only, as it focused on advanced tips & tricks, which included some info about features we've added that are being leveraged by the Content Market. All of these features have already been fully disclosed in the release notes and updates I've provided here on the forums.
As I laid out in the late-April update, the Content Market itself will be rolled out in multiple stages. Please do not expect everything to suddenly become available in one mammoth release, since that’s not going to happen. We’ll be introducing assorted Content Market capabilities incrementally, starting with more basic things and then adding more complexity. This way, we can deploy everything in manageable chunks and ensure that everything works well in Phase #1 before progressing to Phase #2, and so on. We’ll similarly be starting with a small number of content options for purchase, then adding more over time.
So, aside from saying that we're now targeting October to start everything, there was NOTHING NEW. All I did was reiterate to everyone there what has already been communicated here, both in April and in June. And @pollution drew his own GUESSES based on that information. He even clearly stated that they were predictions in his post.
I'll accept criticism about things we've done poorly or wrong, but I take exception when we're villified for something that is utterly untrue. And this one really has no basis in fact.
Edit: The seminar was targeted to existing users only, as it focused on advanced tips & tricks, which included some info about features we've added that are being leveraged by the Content Market. All of these features have already been fully disclosed in the release notes and updates I've provided here on the forums.
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Thanks for keeping us informed and for the clarification, Rob.
Like eponette I would like to watch a video of the seminar.
As I stated before, I can understand your approach on the content market since you have to generate revenue with the things you do.
If I remember correctly, Joe stated you focus on bringing content to users first. Therefore I assume the ability to share user created content and to copy things from one of my realms to another to appear in a later stage of the content market roll-out.
But, like Asmo and several others, I personally would prefer a greater focus on enabling us to do things. Like copying our realms and sharing them. Our creating custom calendars.
Like eponette I would like to watch a video of the seminar.
As I stated before, I can understand your approach on the content market since you have to generate revenue with the things you do.
If I remember correctly, Joe stated you focus on bringing content to users first. Therefore I assume the ability to share user created content and to copy things from one of my realms to another to appear in a later stage of the content market roll-out.
But, like Asmo and several others, I personally would prefer a greater focus on enabling us to do things. Like copying our realms and sharing them. Our creating custom calendars.
I had every intention of recording the seminar. Unfortunately, I found out 3 minutes before the seminar started that someone else had assumed I was going to repeat last year's seminar (I wasn't) and decided that we therefore didn't need to record it. So there was no mic for recording any audio, and there was no way to fix it at that point. This communication breakdown resulted from having someone completely new filling in to coordinate everything this year in the wake of Liz's departure, so I can make sure this doesn't happen again, but it doesn't solve the problem for this year. 
I'll need to figure out something. I'm wiped after an exhausting - but successful and productive - weekend. And there are a zillion things to deal with upon returning home tomorrow. So I'm not sure what the "something" will be - yet.
I'll need to figure out something. I'm wiped after an exhausting - but successful and productive - weekend. And there are a zillion things to deal with upon returning home tomorrow. So I'm not sure what the "something" will be - yet.
If only we could. This is something that I've indicated in the previous, big updates, but that clearly isn't making sense to everyone. I provided some examples in the seminar that seemingly worked, and it appears I'll need to explain things in more detail to everyone here. That's not feasible for a little bit, since it's already 3am here in Indy, I'm on an airplane all tomorrow, and there's a huge pile of work awaiting me upon return.
As I indicated in my previous post, I'll figure something out. I'm just not exactly sure how yet...
...it's already 3am here in Indy, I'm on an airplane all tomorrow, and there's a huge pile of work awaiting me upon return.
As I indicated in my previous post, I'll figure something out. I'm just not exactly sure how yet...
Rob, five years from now RW will be completed, except for occasional add ons, and everyone will be singing your praises.
Viking2054
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Rob, five years from now RW will be completed, except for occasional add ons, and everyone will be singing your praises.
I know your kidding, but the problem is that the RPG community is a big moving target. Let's not mention the high percentage of whiners and cry babies in our community...
Although I hope things will move a bit faster after the content market is complete through all of its roll out stages, I don't see some of the things I want making it into RW in the next 18 months.
I've been patiently taking a wait and see approach for myself. However, when asked, I freely explain the benefits and the hindrances as I see them.
I then recommend a wait until sometime after the content market before thinking about purchasing RW.
Rob, five years from now RW will be completed, except for occasional add ons, and everyone will be singing your praises.
Right you are.
MNBlockHead
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Depends on the person you are talking to, no? I would discuss what they are looking for in a campaign-management tool—the must-haves. I explain why I use and rely on in, but that for certain use cases it may not be the right tool.
This is what I do, too. I will inform people of specific strengths and weaknesses then leave them to draw their own overall conclusions.
Good to hear, but how about: write your own campaign and save as Friends and save as Kids...
I can understand why things go the way they are and have respect for LW but the whole save as thingy is very common these days.
Viking2054
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The few people I've talked to about RW that I know personally, get my honest opinion. I don't take their credit card away from them or force them not to buy. I just recommend waiting. After all, we've been waiting on the content market for how long now? That survey was what two or three years ago?
When I purchased RW there were a few key features I was looking for that RW advertised at the time. So I purchased it. But some of those key features were put not on the back burner, but the way way back burner (walk 10 miles before you find the right back burner). Do I have buyers remorse, not really. But I don't have recommendation fever for RW to other GM's either.
chaoscowboy
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Huh, just bought Realmworks. I may already be regretting it.
ShadowChemosh
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You have 60 days from purchase to ask LW for your money back. My advice is to take that time and actually TRY the software. Just because some people are whiny about stuff does not mean the software is not fantastic. Most likely you will find the few features that are still coming down the road you don't even care about. RW does SO much to help in running games and keeping games moving forward.
Make an informed decision with actual use of the software and not from stuff you read on the internet. Especially when the missing features and MORE is coming down the road. LW has proven that each new release (which we get for free) has improvements and new features. You really can't not expect "more" than that from a software company.
Okay, so your main target is getting new customers. That is absolutely okay from a purely financial perspective. If you take into account how many current users are a bit disappointed, don't you think that a significant number of the new users will be disappointed as well?
Maybe a feasible way to avoid further disappointments is a clear statement on the product page which desirable features are NOT supported at the moment. And please avoid further promises of time lines.
Might be a job for the new marketing officer.