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Dark Sun for 3.5

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Provos

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Would people prefer the Athas.org Dark Sun campaign setting for 3.5 or the Dragon Magazine/Dungeon Magazine version. The Athas.org is more complete but it is user created not "official" like the magazine version would be. Is there a way I could to do both I wonder? Kind of like "Here is the setting choose Athas.org or Dragon Mag version" check boxes.

I have no problem keying in the info for this setting. I made need help with a few things so look for my questions.
 
Provos said:
Would people prefer the Athas.org Dark Sun campaign setting for 3.5 or the Dragon Magazine/Dungeon Magazine version. The Athas.org is more complete but it is user created not "official" like the magazine version would be. Is there a way I could to do both I wonder? Kind of like "Here is the setting choose Athas.org or Dragon Mag version" check boxes.

I have no problem keying in the info for this setting. I made need help with a few things so look for my questions.
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I vote Athas org ruleset. However I haven't actually perused the dragon mag rules.
 
How do you add a new Custom Source?
For instance I wanted to add
Dark Sun Campaign Setting
-Athas.org Races
etc..
 
Provos said:
How do you add a new Custom Source?
For instance I wanted to add
Dark Sun Campaign Setting
-Athas.org Races
etc..
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Look at the XXX.1st file located in the D20 data folder it'll give you an idea! I can't recall the actual name ATM but it's the file with the 1st extension!
 
When I try adding to Custom - Sources.1st I get an error.

File:Custom-Sources.1st (line 1)-Invalid character encoding specified-XML documents must be encoded in 'ISO-8859-1" encoding


<document signature="Hero Lab Structure">
<source id="p30" name="3.0 D&D Books" selectable="no" parent="UserParent" sortorder="0" description="Lawful_g Community created 3.0 D&D books."/>
<source id="pDS" name="Dark Sun Setting Books" selectable="no" parent="UserParent" sortorder="0" description="Lawful_g Community created Dark Sun books."/>
<source id="pDL" name="Dragonlance Setting Books" selectable="no" parent="UserParent" sortorder="0" description="Lawful_g Community created Dragonlance books."/>
<source id="p35" name="3.5 D&D Books" selectable="no" parent="UserParent" sortorder="0" description="Lawful_g Community created 3.5 D&D books."/>
<source id="pFR" name="Forgotten Realms Setting Books" selectable="no" parent="UserParent" sortorder="0" description="Lawful_g Community created Forgotten Realms books."/>
<source id="pECS" name="Eberron Campaign Setting Books" selectable="no" parent="UserParent" sortorder="0" description="Community created Eberron setting books."/>
<source id="pRaven" name="Ravenloft Campaign Setting Books" selectable="no" parent="UserParent" sortorder="0" description="Community created Ravenloft setting books."/>
<source id="pPaizo" name="Paizo - Modules" selectable="no" parent="UserParent" sortorder="0" description="Community created Pathfinder and Gamemastery Modules"/>
</document>
 
Provos said:
thanks. What xml editor do you recommend, or do you just use notepad?
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I use dreamweaver but any text editor will work, I usually copy and paste the existing last line insert my own data then tag my custom stuff to the new source in HL.
 
Provos said:
thanks. What xml editor do you recommend, or do you just use notepad?
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Most of my changes are inside the HL Editor. When I do need to work in the raw XML I actually prefer TextPad actually. I have used for many years on many different projects from HTML, XML, Java, javascript, and the scripting language of Never Winter Nights.

I would at least advice picking up one that does the coloring of the different element types and stuff. That really helps make it easier to read.
 
I was trying to use Microsoft XML Notepad 2007 and Hero Lab does not like the way it saves the files. I thought I was doing something wrong but it is just a compatibly issue with the software.
 
Provos said:
I was trying to use Microsoft XML Notepad 2007 and Hero Lab does not like the way it saves the files. I thought I was doing something wrong but it is just a compatibly issue with the software.
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Quite possible, I believe Microsoft has a way of injecting their own code into most standard languages that play havoc with other companies products, anyone remember frontpage HTML?

Terrible structure :-/
 
ShadowChemosh said:
Most of my changes are inside the HL Editor. When I do need to work in the raw XML I actually prefer TextPad actually. I have used for many years on many different projects from HTML, XML, Java, javascript, and the scripting language of Never Winter Nights.

I would at least advice picking up one that does the coloring of the different element types and stuff. That really helps make it easier to read.
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I also use TextPad.

As someone used to coding from vi (unix visual editor) and notepad up to IDE (Integrated Development Environments) such as Eclipse. I find it easy to use TextPad with default settings and not worrying about having pretty colours to determine the tags.

It is possible to use a template for colouration if someone was keen.
 
Some races have bonuses to skills. For most skills I figured out how to add a bonus. I would have prefered to use something along the lines of BonRacial but there is not one. I just used #skillbonus. Anyways some races have a skill bonus to a type of crafting or to all perform skills is there a way to add that?
 
Provos said:
Some races have bonuses to skills. For most skills I figured out how to add a bonus. I would have prefered to use something along the lines of BonRacial but there is not one. I just used #skillbonus. Anyways some races have a skill bonus to a type of crafting or to all perform skills is there a way to add that?
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+1

I second the #Bonracial suggestion, also a #BonSize, #BonKnowledgeAny, #BonCraftAny and #BonPerformAny set of macros would be most useful.
 
Ok, more questions.
Is is possible to add the +1 racial bonus for all throw weapons in a script?
Can you add racial weapon familiarity for all bows?
 
Provos said:
Ok, more questions.
Is is possible to add the +1 racial bonus for all throw weapons in a script?
Can you add racial weapon familiarity for all bows?
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Should be IIRC the feat Brutal Throw has a script that applies a bonus to all Thrown weapons, have a look at that for pointers Weapon Focus could work too as long as you tag it to wcategory.thrown. Perhaps create a Racial special that bootstraps the ability.
 
So it should be something like

Code: 
~ Add +1 Bonus to thrown weapons
foreach pick in hero where "wCategory.RangeThrow"
   each.field[wAttRanged].value += 1
nexteach
 
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Dark Sun Races

I have basically finished the Dark Sun races. Here they are let me know if you find any problems.

There is a To-do list with the problems I was having.
Dwarf Focus not sure if it can be added via dropdown for +1
Dwarf skill for crafting not sure how to do
Dwarf racial weapon
Elf skill bonus for perform not sure how to do
Elf racial weapon
Thri-Kreen racial weapon
 

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Provos, I'd recommend asking those as proper questions in the d20 forum, rather than just listing them here - make it more obvious that you need help with those. Adding details is also good - I haven't read any Dark Sun material since 2ed, so I don't know anything about what any of those missing things you're listing are trying to accomplish, so I can't help you accomplish them.

Oh, and something to think about - is there anything in the existing d20 files that works similarly to how my thing works? For example, does "Thri-Kreen racial weapon" mean something along the lines of how an Elf is proficient in the longbow? Or does it mean something along the lines of how the "Bear, Black" has a Claw/Claw/Bite set of natural weapons? In the editor, you can use the "New (Copy)" button at the bottom left to make a copy of an existing thing, so that you can see how that thing accomplishes the task.
 
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