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Kinsfire
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Old July 27th, 2017, 04:00 PM
I will admit that I may have overlooked something in reading how to work on a class, which is leading to this question.

I am working on a character class that uses pre-existing spells, but they come from various classes. I can pick the various classes when setting up the spellcasting for the class, but that gives access to more spells than we want this class to use. How do we pick and choose to properly set up the character? (For example, let's say we want to add ONLY Bless from the Paladin list to the class for 1st level spells. The way I can do spells at the moment adds ALL the Paladin spells.)

Where should I be looking for this information? Chapter 6 of the tutorials reads (to me) as if you are creating new spells from whole cloth. (Creating Explosive Sheep as a spell, for example. )
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Old July 28th, 2017, 12:22 AM
I've started to find the answer to my own question. Actually, I've answered it, but I'm wondering: Is there a simple list somewhere of the names of the spells? (Not Bigby's Hand, but what HL uses, which should be something like spMageHnd or similar. Light would be something like spLight.)

The class uses no new spells, so setting this up this way is a hell of a lot faster. I've looked at the phrasing within the .USER file, and for what I want, it's basically the same line repeated, with the difference being the HL name for the spell. (I'm using the Extend Thing tab, and the difference is the thing I'm extending. I've added two lines below. I've got a LOT more to go, so the list would be a godsend.)

<extthing thing="sp5CBladeW" group="sClass" tag="cHelpASP"/>
<extthing thing="spLight" group="sClass" tag="cHelpASP"/>
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Old July 28th, 2017, 12:40 AM
You could just open the community pack file in the editor.

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Old July 28th, 2017, 03:21 PM
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You could just open the community pack file in the editor.
That only works for spells found in the community files.

From what I've seen the SRD spells (from LW) all follow a pattern of

One Word: Uses the first 8 letters of the word
Light - spLight
Telekinesis - spTelekine

Two Word: Uses the first 4 letters of each word
Arcane Hand - spArcaHand

Multi Word: No real pattern but they tend drop connectors like "of", "with", etc.
Prayer of Healing - spPrayHeal

but then you'll get one like
Protection from Evil and Good - spProtGoEv <- that doesn't even make sense.

If you remove the community files and just have the SRD installed you can go into the editor and do a New Copy inside the spell tab and all the non-5C spells are listed, you could do multiple screenshots to get all the names.... Or leave the community files and do even more screenshots.
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Old July 28th, 2017, 08:08 PM
I went into the community files and grabbed the ones we're using that were in there - but your answer will be VERY helpful, dungeonguru. Hadn't noticed that about those spells that were official Wolf Lair HL files.

(Love your sig, by the way. I started with the Hero System (Champions), but we've been gaming about the same amount of time...does that certify me as an Old Coot as well?)
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Old August 4th, 2017, 07:37 AM
To add specific spells to a class's spell list, you need to add the ClsAllowSp tag for that spell. So if you need to add Protection from Evil and good, you would add the ClsAllowSp.spProtGoEv tag to the class.

(And can I join the Old Coot's club as well? I've been playing D&D since roughly 1987.)
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Old August 4th, 2017, 01:13 PM
Maybe we should bug the forum admin for an Old Coot badge, it is a very elite and exclusive club!
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Old August 4th, 2017, 03:54 PM
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Maybe we should bug the forum admin for an Old Coot badge, it is a very elite and exclusive club!
+1 for this! I've been playing/GMing since 1980.
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Old August 6th, 2017, 04:48 AM
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+1 for this! I've been playing/GMing since 1980.
Oh, snap! So have I!

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Old September 7th, 2017, 06:55 PM
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Oh, snap! So have I!
YOU KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN!

You should be at my table instead. (1980-ish here, too.)

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