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Senko
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Old January 4th, 2016, 04:42 AM
Someone recently mentioned they had a character with over 3,000 and another person had 7.5 thousand karma. This got me curious what such a character would look like so I tried making one I've gotten to about 2.2k karma and now whenever I try to raise a skill group it crashes to the desktop. I'm just curious if this happens to other people since that much karma isn't something you normally deal with in shadowrun.
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Old January 4th, 2016, 09:11 AM
Playing around a bit its the advances tab that does it, wonder if I should report this. It is a bug but its not one that is likely to come up in 99% of the games. In character creation you can increase everything to ridiculous heights no problem but after you lock it and click advance it crashes.
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Old January 4th, 2016, 09:48 AM
Not doing it for me, running on El Capitan.
I just made a 3k karma Mary Sue, all good.

Disclaimer: Said El Capitan is backed by 16GB of RAM.

Edit: What it DOES do in El Capitan, is still allow fullscreen even though the last HL release patch notes said it was disabled. (Mathias?)
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Old January 4th, 2016, 11:52 AM
My computer also has 16 GB ram. Still if its working on yours either its the sheer amount of advances/gear I've loaded these characters down with or a fault in my system/program. If you don't mind me asking what kind of character did you make with your 3k karma a specialist or a generalist. Mine was a generalist all stats at max, lots of skills at 4-7, qualities for decking/magic/face/general interest, spells rather than being focused on a specific area. As I said even if I do all this then lock the advances tab it crashes with no advances actually selected so it may be glitch somewhere else. Or even better PM me an email address i can send the crashing one to you and see if you can add things on the advances tab.
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Old January 4th, 2016, 11:57 AM
If you've got a saved character and a set of steps that can be performed on that character to cause a crash, why discuss it here? Why not submit a bug report and include that character?
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Old January 4th, 2016, 12:04 PM
Two reasons really.

One I wanted some more information from other users on what was actually happening. Alistair's post for example indicates it might be a problem either with my specific program or some combination of the operating system. That lets me know its worth playing around (removing files, trying different options) and maybe even uninstalling/reinstalling to see if it changes things. That way if I do submit a bug report I can provide a lot more information on what exactly is going on. The more information I can get both about his system vs mine and the whole set up in general the more detailed I can be in a report to let you know what's going on and how to replicate it beyond "Just buy a lot of advances spread out" which may not even trigger an issue if it didn't for him or if I include the character and you do click add advance and it doesn't crash its not a bug with the program its a fault in my system.

Secondly I am still on the fence about reporting it at all as I may have done so previously (can't remember) and even if I hadn't the levels at which my version starts playing up are far, far beyond what most players would ever see much less play with.

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Also would you please let me know how I'd include the character here http://www.wolflair.com/support/repo...ect=shadowrun5 as I don't see an attach file option or do you just mean email you directly

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Old January 4th, 2016, 12:07 PM
If you're still trying to determine the exact circumstances that cause the problem, then keep doing that, but if something crashes the program, that's something we want to fix, no matter how improbable it is that someone would encounter it in normal use - you were goofing around with the program and encountered it, so someone else may do the same things in the future.
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Old January 4th, 2016, 12:18 PM
Ok I'll report it via the email with an attached character when I have a better idea of what exactly is causing it.
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Old January 4th, 2016, 12:27 PM
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Also would you please let me know how I'd include the character here http://www.wolflair.com/support/repo...ect=shadowrun5 as I don't see an attach file option or do you just mean email you directly
Once you submit a bug, the system will give you an automated message that your bug was received. Reply to that automated response, attaching the character, and the system will attach that response, including its attachments, to the original report when I look at the case.
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Old January 5th, 2016, 02:47 PM
Hmmmm seems like there's actually a few things going wrong here, well I've done all I can without being able to test the characters on a different computer setup. Bug report sent.
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