(M&M 3e) Vehicle PL Reporting bug

[Shadowchaser]

Originally Posted by Colen

Resurrecting this thread - I was trying to fix this error, but I couldn't reproduce the problem (like Deadman was experiencing, I'm not getting any PL errors for the Submarine at all). Shadowchaser, can you email me the saved portfolio to colen@wolflair.com? If you can get it to me sometime tomorrow I can hopefully fix this for the 1.0 update.

I deleted the submarine because I couldn't build it properly. I'll try and recreate it tonight and email it to you... but keep in mind, it's NDA stuff, meant for publication by Vigilance Press.



Thanks for the help, I'll get to it as soon as possible.

(EDIT)

Nevermind... I can't seem to replicate the error now. I deleted and rebuilt the sub several times, getting the error every time before. Now, no error. I don't get it.

Oh, well. If it pops up again, I'll be sure to save the portfolio aside and send it to you, Colen. Sorry.

[Colen]

Weird. Ah well, let me know if it pops up again, like you said. You can always send me a cut-down version without any of the "real" names / content that demonstrates the problem, if it's for something upcoming.

[Shadowchaser]

AH-HA!!

Now I found it again! The problem kicks in when I build the submarine as a Headquarters!

I had forgotten that I was building it as an HQ and not a vehicle. It still shouldn't give me PL restrictions on a character who isn't limited by PL! The PL of the base should be based on the effective PL of the character, and it's well below that.



Sorry about the confusion, guys, hope this info is in time for you to address it!

EDIT- Okay, it seems to be based on the Toughness of the HQ. When I raise the Toughness of the HQ, the 'maxium points' allowed for the Blast power and the max damage goes up.

[Colen]

DCA page 160: "A headquarters can be given any appropriate power effect as a feature with the Gamemaster’s approval. The effect cannot have a total cost greater than twice the HQ power level and cannot exceed the power level limits."

So it sounds like what you have is an error that's valid when PL limits are used, but shouldn't be reported if the limits are turned off. You're just in time, I'll get it into the release.

[Shadowchaser]

Originally Posted by Colen

DCA page 160: "A headquarters can be given any appropriate power effect as a feature with the Gamemaster’s approval. The effect cannot have a total cost greater than twice the HQ power level and cannot exceed the power level limits."

So it sounds like what you have is an error that's valid when PL limits are used, but shouldn't be reported if the limits are turned off. You're just in time, I'll get it into the release.

Cool. I'm just glad it wasn't a case of me being crazy.

The past 5 weeks have been (no exaggeration) pretty much the hardest time of my life. So it wouldn't have been a stretch for me to have done something stupid.

[Colen]

Ugh! Hopefully next year brings you some better luck with life.