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Just curious. I generated a level 3 monk character which had a +10 in climb and the Athletic Feat.
When I use the 'Ring of the Monkey' it raises the climb skill to +28, adding 18 to the 10. I know in the description it says it adds +8 when I have the Athletics feat but what is the other +10 for? The description I get for the skills shows the following: Skill Bonus Calculations Total Bonus +28 = 1 (ranks) +3 (class skill) +4 (STR mod) +2 (competence bonus) +8 (enhancement bonus) +10 (untyped bonus) What is the 'Untyped Bonus'? Note: This item comes from the "Freeport Players Guide / Freeport: City of" ... that's all the description I got under Sourcebooks. Last edited by Wordpoet; May 17th, 2018 at 08:37 AM. |
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Well, 8 of it is probably the bonus to climb you get from having a climb speed. Not sure where the other 2 is coming from.
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The +8 comes from the ring. The other +2 likely has a different source. Check your character to see what else might be giving you a bonus to climb. Untyped just means it's not a specific type of bonus (ie competence, enhancement, trait, etc).
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EDIT: Ok I think I figured it out and Aaron provided the key. The ring description says the following with the athletics feat: 1 - You gain a climb speed equal to your land speed. (Thank-you Aaron for pointing this out.) 2 - AND you gain a +8 enhancement bonus. Climb Speed - A creature with a climb speed has a +8 racial bonus on all Climb checks. ... (Ref: https://www.d20pfsrd.com/skills/climb/) Feats - If you have the Athletic feat you get a +2 bonus on Climb checks. If you have 10 or more ranks in Climb, the bonus increases to +4. (Ref: https://www.d20pfsrd.com/skills/climb/) Ring - Provides a +8 enhancement bonus Wow.. To be honest that is way more than I expected but pretty awesome. Thanks for the help figuring it out. Last edited by Wordpoet; May 17th, 2018 at 10:06 AM. |
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+8 untyped bonus to climb when the ring is activated +x competence bonus to climb when wearing the ring where x=DEX mod +8 enhancement bonus if you also have the Athletics feat |
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I think this might be the author misunderstanding the rules, and thinking he needed to mention the +8 everyone gets from having a climb speed, and for some reason calling it out as an enhancement bonus (which it is not). The result being the item granting the sort of same thing twice.
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Here is the item text:
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doneif (field[gIsEquip].value = 0) ~ Dex bonus to Climb field[abValue].value += #attrmod[aDEX] #applybonus[BonComp,hero.child[skClimb],field[abValue].value] if (#hasfeat[fAthletic] = 0) then perform assign[User.Activation] perform assign[Usage.Day] perform assign[User.Tracker] field[trkMax].value = 1 if (field[abilActive].value <> 0) then perform hero.childfound[xClimb].assign[SpeedMult.Full] endif else perform hero.childfound[xClimb].assign[SpeedMult.Full] #applybonus[BonEnhance, hero.childfound[skClimb], 8] endif Hero Lab Resources: Pathfinder - d20pfsrd and Pathfinder Pack Setup 3.5 D&D (d20) - Community Server Setup 5E D&D - Community Server Setup Hero Lab Help - Hero Lab FAQ, Editor Tutorials and Videos, Editor & Scripting Resources. Created by the community for the community - Realm Works kickstarter backer (Alpha Wolf) and Beta tester.- d20 HL package volunteer editor. |
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The +2 from dex is a competence bonus, which is shown in the breakdown he gave above, so it isn't the mystery +2 that is going into untyped. That is actually probably from his Athletic feat.
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Ah, nevermind, looks like wordpoet already worked it out above, sorry about that!
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Great feedback everyone. Thank-you all for the help in understanding how this worked.
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